Logic Audio 5 Help Thread

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Well, im tryin to transfer songs from acid to logic, by loadin the waves in logic, and rebuilding the song. And ive come to the conclusion that logic is retarded, clearly a better and more powerful program, that actually makes the waves sound better than acid, but its incredibly glichy to use, dragging files, coping and pasting parts from tracks, cutting up tracks with the scisors, its all about 100 times harder than acid and less effective, why the hell would they do this? Like, im trying to cut a section wave at a certain point, and i can't, it only lets me cut at certain points where the cursor goes, and it takes BIG jumps when i move it. what the hell? How do i move the cursor in smaller increments so i can cut it anywhere i want? Im doing this in the sequencing window, i have one bassline, copyed a few times, and in one of the copies, i want to cut it off about half way, and put a different ending on it, but i can't cut at the right place! help!
 
Logic is a very difficult program to use. It has taken me about 3 years to get the hang of it. Its really designed as a stand alone do it all within Logic program. Importing can be difficult if coming from another program. You can try stretching out the waveform as wide as you like & then try cutting. Or go to the sample edit window of the wave your working with, stretch it out and cutting there.
 
hmm

Yea, i mean just loading Waves into Logic, not a full song, just loading all the individual waves, and sequencing them to make up a long, i mean, this is what audio programs are made for, if logic wasn't made to do this, then it wasn't made to do anything, cause this is the only thing it does. Just, just loading in the drum beat tracks, then the piano track, then the bassline track, then the vocals, etc.... and sequencing them to make a song, and that kind of stuff.

But ive just been utterly shocked, i rebuilt a song from acid, into logic, and dare i say, ACID sounds BETTER! WHAT THE HELL? why does acid sound better? it doesn't make any sense, i set the volume levesl the same, i used the exact same files, im not using any plugins in either of the songs.. whats the deal?
 
You got me beat !! I have imported audio files from logic into Soundforge and Cool Edit for editing and then reimported back to Logic without a hitch. And I have imported audio clips recorded from Soundforge into Logic without any problems as well. So Im not real sure what you have going on there. Are these .wav files or AIFF ? I cant see any reason why Logic would sound worse. Ive been using logic for years and never have problems with quality unless I screwed up the level settings or something. There are also tons of tweaks within Logic, driver settings, latency settings and so forth that will make a difference. I record at 24 bit with an audiophile 24/96 and prior to that an Audiowerk8 from emagic and they both work well. Ive gotten so used to Logic, I would'nt switch to anything else, especially Logic 5, It performs flawlessly...for me anyway.
Might try starting fresh and recording a little diddy to see if Logic is recording well and the quality is good. If it does, then you will know the importing is creating some kind of problem.
 
hmm

well, i think i overcame my problems. It sounds good now, just acid being queer, i hate acid. There are just a lot of small things i need to get worked out before i can use it like i used acid, but it is better.
im messing with the noise gate in this track im working on.
I applied the gate to the basslines, and then put the beat in the sidechain. So when to kick drum hits, it fades the bass out a bit so it doesn't get muddled (my basic understanding of gating). But i can't tell if i did it right, i set the threshhold to about -39db, anything higher it cut out all the time, not just on the kick drum (speaking of cutting out, i can't really tell if its cutting out or not), and i have the low cut to 260hz. So, does that mean that if the kick drum and the bassline play at the same time, and the bassline goes around those frequencies, it will cut it out?
Am i doing this right? I wish i could easily post this file up for you guys to check and give me advice on.
 
The thing with Logic is that you absolutely have to read the documentation and it is horribly lacking. I would agree that it is a pretty crappy interface but from my experience and comparisons I have heard it is the best sounding program. It just seems to have a slightly fuller sound than many other programs.
 
yea

i totaly agree tex, i need to read up more, im kinda in the impulsive stage where i want to test it out NOW, and see the results.
 
snaged

Ok ive come across a slight snag. Ive got my mix rebuilt in logic, it sounds good, ive done the levels, now i want to add effects. I know how to do this, but i want to single out a single track, so i can listen it along, and then get the effects right on it, then do some fine tuning on who it sounds in the whole mix. Is there a way i can make it so only one tracks plays? like in acid, when you hit the little ! button and then it makes only that track play?
 
I've been using a lite version for a few months and most of the general mixing duties are easy enough to do. It is more of a mac program so a lot of the usual windows conventions dont apply.

When you are dealing with single audio files you need to use the AUDIO window and read up on what REGIONS and CLONES are and you will be able to start quickly doing fine edits. It's still clunky but you will be able to do what you want.

The general "Logic" is that you load in the audio file and from that file you define and select REGIONS. Those are what actually appear as your tracks in the ARRANGE window.

It's hard to explain and they dont do it very well either but it's a pretty powerfull way of doing non destructive editing without having to manually save a bunch of different loops or sections all based off one master audio file.
 
hmm

sounds powerful and exciting, and im not doing it anywhere close to that way.
but it works the way im doing it now
just simple sequencing, etc.. I will learn though.
 
To hear just one track at a time, go to the audio Mixer window. Decide which track you want to hear alone, and click on the "S" button on the bottom of that track's fader. The S stands for Solo. Then you can bring up the plug in effects for that track and tweak away. If you want to hear what the track sounded like without that plug in effect, then just click on BYPASS on that plug in. You can switch the effect on and off as quickly and as often as you wish, and you can do that in SOLO mode (listening to just one track) or while the whole mix is playing.
If you want to listen to 2,3,4,5... tracks at once, then you just mute the ones you don't want to hear.

Good Luck!

It is a PAIN IN THE ASS... but I can tell you haven't read the manual. You can also go to www.gearvision.com and order the two video (or just one of them if you want) on how to set up, and work with Logic. They are supposed to be excellent tools to help out with Logic. I have been working with Logic for almost 2 years now and I finally ordered the videos just now. I hope they are great. I took the long and stupid road. I didn't want to dig into that War and Peace sized manuel they have. But it does help. This site helps a lot too. But you really should try to figure things out for yourself as much as possible. You will usually learn more about the program than you ever thought possible while trying to do something completely different than you thought.
 
hmmn

yea i totaly agree, i have always done it that way. Worked with it, and when i need to do a certain thing, figured it out be trying to do it.
 
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