Llano del Rio - Acoustic country from an inveterate punk.

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Something completely different from me, this time. I don't do acoustic stuff and I most DEFINITELY don't do country. :D :D The song is about a failed idealistic self-contained community that was set up in 1914 near the town of Llano in California.

This is a cover version but I won't say who by, just yet. :D The Uke and acoustic guitar were done together, everything else dubbed afterwards. Everything is acoustic, things being hit, plucked and sung and recorded with a microphone, apart from the electric bass.

Bubba: Acoustic guitar, electric bass, vocals, backing vocals

Frank: Ukulele, Cabasa x2, ride cymbal, floor tom, backing vocals.

Comments welcome.

 

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The initial accoustic sounds great - very similar to the intro tone to Pinball Wizard.
I think the uke on the left might be a touch quiet although I have to admit, I'm not a uke aficionado.

As the song rolls on a bit and you're strumming the acoustic it is starting to sound a little boomy - have a listen to the acoustic when you sing "the wind tastes like gasoline" that's when I first noticed it.

Being from my side of the border I immediately read the thread title as Llandeilo!
 
The initial accoustic sounds great - very similar to the intro tone to Pinball Wizard.
I think the uke on the left might be a touch quiet although I have to admit, I'm not a uke aficionado.

As the song rolls on a bit and you're strumming the acoustic it is starting to sound a little boomy - have a listen to the acoustic when you sing "the wind tastes like gasoline" that's when I first noticed it.

Being from my side of the border I immediately read the thread title as Llandeilo!

I'll check all those points out, Jdude.:D Regarding the double "L", you will have noticed that the pronunciation is "Yano" rather than "Chlano". WHy? Beats me! :D
 
I'll check all those points out, Jdude.:D Regarding the double "L", you will have noticed that the pronunciation is "Yano" rather than "Chlano". WHy? Beats me! :D

Despite what I've said, I'd be well chuffed if I could do an arrangement that sounds that good.

I do love our place names - its almost a national hobby listening to tourists ask for directions.
 
Despite what I've said, I'd be well chuffed if I could do an arrangement that sounds that good.

I do love our place names - its almost a national hobby listening to tourists ask for directions.

Thanks very much, no fucking offence taken. :D You were right about the acoustic, when I checked on the monitors. I looked at my EQ (on the Focusrite Red2 EQ, which isn't graphical) and there was a hump in the 100-300 Hz range. Another thing I noticed was the vocal was too "hard edged" through the monitors. Too much 4-5 KHz, which was making it a bit loud and strident. Pulled that back a little and bumped the 10k a bit. Sounds much better. There was a bit of a left lean, actually, as well. Noticed it in the rendering. I fixed that and the Uke, too.

No new mix up yet, though. I want to see if anyone comes up with anything else.

Place names, lol. There's a place called Slaithwaite near Huddersfield. Against all the rules of common sense it's pronounced "Slawit". :D
 
Well, it seems my ears do work after all. I lived in Huddersfield for a short while, it wasn't pleasant! That was when my Peavey Bandit got left out in the rain.

I just sent you an email (which you can now ignore). How do you minimise cymbal wash when you upload to Soundcloud? I know you figured out a way of doing it.
 
I thought this was very good. Good fidelity on everything. Good performances.

Not a whole lot to pick at. It's good.

You might want to try a stronger low and and see what it sounds like. The bass is pretty low in the mix. Personally, I like the low level for a song like this. But it might be something to try.
 
I thought this was very good. Good fidelity on everything. Good performances.

Not a whole lot to pick at. It's good.

You might want to try a stronger low and and see what it sounds like. The bass is pretty low in the mix. Personally, I like the low level for a song like this. But it might be something to try.

Thanks very much, TripleM. There is a new mix in the op - the bass has indeed been turned up a bit! Good spot. :)
 
Mix sounds great to me


I get the pinball wizard at the beginning too


cant think of anything Id change from a mix perspective...except for the entire song, please go back to radiohead etc :D
 
Ooh...I'm really looking forward to this one, but can't listen now. Having a hard time picturing you doing a country track, which has me intrigued.
 
LOL - uke shredding from young Frank:D

Finally got to listen to it - sounds pretty good all round to me. No sonic nits to pick here. You've done a good job on making the bass sound relatively acoustic too via the playing style, works well with everything else.

Nice.
 
Bubba,
I'm in the midst of listening to three LPs that arrived by post yesterday arvo: Stooges Metallic KO, John Cale Honi Soir & his Music for a New Society. So far the 1st 2 sound mint as well as sounding great because of the music. I'll listen to your track tomorrow morning - sorry.
 
Finally getting to hear this...

The mix sounds great. I'm listening through my tracking phones (HD280's), and the bass Is quite fat and strong, but I like it that way, and these phones tend to be sort of dark anyway...

I like the panning of the hand percussion...it's pretty pronounced through phones, but I bet would sound less so through speakers.

I thought the stringed instruments sounded great...nothing I would change there.

It felt like the vocals were a bit buried to me during the verses, especially when compared to any time Llano, Llano is sung. I mean, I could hear them ok, I just subjectively would've liked them louder during all of the other parts.

It struck me more as latin flavored folk vs. country, but then country can take many forms, and my definition is perhaps quite narrow. I enjoyed it, and I think it sounds great overall!
 
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Any song that name checks Aldos Huxley is cool by me - then adding Esperanto - well :Thta granda de mi,"
Nice recording - the uke is cool almost mandoline stuff happening too. There're some spots where the ;lyrics are less clearly heard by deaf me than in otehrs.
Apart from that ĝi estas tute bona.
 
I really like the strumming rhythm and style. My foot was moving to the beat.

The tempo is a hair slow, imo. The mix sounds spot on.
 
The mix is really good. Personally, I'd like to hear a little bit of grit of some kind. I hate to be so vague, but I don't know exactly what it is my ear wants to hear. It just all sounds so smooth and pristine, and I'm wanting to hear it a little rougher. But I'm not sure how. Keep in mind that the only country I like is the really old stuff, and there is a lot of great country-ish stuff (I'm talking talented bluegrass groups, not pop country) that is slickly produced in a good way. So it's a matter of what you're going for. As an inveterate punk I'd think you would go for a more rough-around-the-edges country style. Something like Hank III maybe. The vocal seems a little loud. The groove is great. Gives me the urge to watch Smokey and the Bandit. So you nailed that aspect. Well-performed, nice full sound. It just needs some sonic funkiness of some kind.
 
LOL - uke shredding from young Frank:D

Finally got to listen to it - sounds pretty good all round to me. No sonic nits to pick here. You've done a good job on making the bass sound relatively acoustic too via the playing style, works well with everything else.

Nice.

Thanks, Armistice. I was really quite surprised at how Frank picked up the Uke. I shouldn't be - he just seems to grab an instrument, the next thing y'know he's playing it. Kids, eh? :D

Finally getting to hear this...

The mix sounds great. I'm listening through my tracking phones (HD280's), and the bass Is quite fat and strong, but I like it that way, and these phones tend to be sort of dark anyway...

I like the panning of the hand percussion...it's pretty pronounced through phones, but I bet would sound less so through speakers.

I thought the stringed instruments sounded great...nothing I would change there.

It felt like the vocals were a bit buried to me during the verses, especially when compared to any time Llano, Llano is sung. I mean, I could hear them ok, I just subjectively would've liked them louder during all of the other parts.

It struck me more as latin flavored folk vs. country, but then country can take many forms, and my definition is perhaps quite narrow. I enjoyed it, and I think it sounds great overall!

Thanks, Heatmiser. The original has loads of pedal steel on it, which skewed my idea of what genre this really belongs to. In actual fact, I think it's more of a Tex-Mex Mariachi sound when the pedal steel is taken away. You're right about the imbalance between the Llano Llano parts and the verse vocals, but I think the fault lies with the former rather than the latter. :D I turned down the chorus vocal and sharpened up the eq to cut better in the verse parts.

Any song that name checks Aldos Huxley is cool by me - then adding Esperanto - well :Thta granda de mi,"
Nice recording - the uke is cool almost mandoline stuff happening too. There're some spots where the ;lyrics are less clearly heard by deaf me than in otehrs.
Apart from that ĝi estas tute bona.

Thanks, Ray. I think this experiment has been a success, over all. The original song has real substance lyrically and that's the reason why Frank and I wanted to do this style. Normally I wouldn't have gone within a country mile of it. :D

I really like the strumming rhythm and style. My foot was moving to the beat.

The tempo is a hair slow, imo. The mix sounds spot on.

Thanks for the listen, Nola. :D This isn't my usual thing as you know, but getting outside your comfort zone is a good thing now and again and I'm happy with the result.

The mix is really good. Personally, I'd like to hear a little bit of grit of some kind. I hate to be so vague, but I don't know exactly what it is my ear wants to hear. It just all sounds so smooth and pristine, and I'm wanting to hear it a little rougher. But I'm not sure how. Keep in mind that the only country I like is the really old stuff, and there is a lot of great country-ish stuff (I'm talking talented bluegrass groups, not pop country) that is slickly produced in a good way. So it's a matter of what you're going for. As an inveterate punk I'd think you would go for a more rough-around-the-edges country style. Something like Hank III maybe. The vocal seems a little loud. The groove is great. Gives me the urge to watch Smokey and the Bandit. So you nailed that aspect. Well-performed, nice full sound. It just needs some sonic funkiness of some kind.

Ha ha, thanks, Paulman. If I'd had any plan at all when we started this, I would've agreed with you wholeheartedly. :D As it was, this cover was a party piece that myself and the scion came up with to play at summer barbecues when friends ask us to get the guitars out! I was only going to record the Uke, guitar and vocals live, originally. Once we set up, I decided to do the instruments first then the vocal after.

Then I had the brainwave of adding the cabasa which I bought solely to do Paranoid Android with and never used since.

Then I wanted a different cabasa rhythm in the other ear.

Then I thought the track needed a "pulse" and I got Frank to do the floor tom beat.

Then I remembered I'd spent £400 on a ride cymbal three weeks ago and I wanted my money's worth, so that got put on.

Then I realised it was a fully-blown track and it needed bass guitar. :D


It was never meant to be like this, I just couldn't leave it alone! :D
 
The original has loads of pedal steel on it, which skewed my idea of what genre this really belongs to. In actual fact, I think it's more of a Tex-Mex Mariachi sound when the pedal steel is taken away.

Yes, but Willie Nelson did some Latin-flavored stuff, which this reminded me of, so I'm gonna call this country. Outside-the-box country, but when it comes to country it's always good to get outside the box. And again, it does have that trucking rhythm going for it.
 
Yes, but Willie Nelson did some Latin-flavored stuff, which this reminded me of, so I'm gonna call this country. Outside-the-box country, but when it comes to country it's always good to get outside the box. And again, it does have that trucking rhythm going for it.

Well, we agree on that, then! Over in the UK we have a radio programme called "Bob Harris Country". The guy's my namesake ( "Whispering" Bob Harris, as he became nicknamed) and was famous for being the host of the seminal live rock show "The Old Grey Whistle Test" in the 70s. Any band worth their salt was on that show. Now he plays the most god-awful shite that passes for country. It's just formulaic pop with glassy production and autotune, not what I'd call country at all.
 
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