level settings---modeler and recorder???

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Using a modeler;

Usually set the modeler output all the way up, recorder input all the way up and use trim to get it under control??

Is it necessary to use an insert fx compressor between the input and recording section when using a modeler on a line input?

I am getting better results doing the above, but is what I am doing correct?

Using a podxt--> +4 to -10 db passive dir box--> Boss BR series recorder.
 
Set the Pod for about 3/4 of the way up.

Set the input level on the Boss so that the meters on the boss are bouncing around about half way up the meters. Like around -18dbfs or so. Close enough counts.
 
I wouldn't push the sliders or volume all the way p and bring the trim down - your just asking for hiss. Volume seems to work best for me at the 3/4 mark like Fairview suggested
 
Set the Pod for about 3/4 of the way up.

Set the input level on the Boss so that the meters on the boss are bouncing around about half way up the meters. Like around -18dbfs or so. Close enough counts.

My Pod XT has on output knob, THEN
My Boss BR900cd has an input level knob and input trim knob on the line in section I am using.

Right now I have my Pod XT output all the way, my Boss recorder input level all the way up and my trim knob on my recorder about 40% of the way up with my level meter bouncing around the mid level like you said. I also am using a compressor and EQ insert FX after my input that is a simple algorythm my Boos recorder has built into it as a line input FX. Either with the insert FX on or off, this method seems to get a better sound than I have ever got, but am I overdoing something, because the 3/4 method is something that adds about 50 different combinations that gets overly insane trying to figure. I learned this basically from the first 50 pages of the Guerilla recording book I bought after "arcadeko" suggested it from another thread.

The new better sound is a bit bassy, but all I need to do is piss with the Pod a bit, AND TWO...... while playing back and recording at the same time, it seems as though I have to set my master level and track levels pretty high on the one playing back so I can hear the track and myself at the same time. What's this from? I would think I would be able to get to the point volume -wise where I would eventually get so loud I couldn't take it and have to back off(?).
 
My Pod XT has on output knob, THEN
My Boss BR900cd has an input level knob and input trim knob on the line in section I am using.

Right now I have my Pod XT output all the way,
Set the pod output to 3/4 of the way up. Having anything all the way up is generally asking for problems.


my Boss recorder input level all the way up and my trim knob on my recorder about 40% of the way up with my level meter bouncing around the mid level like you said.
This is where you are going wrong. You have the pod blasing into the input that is jacked all the way up and you are turning the signal down with the trim knob. What you are supposed to do is send a line level signal out of the pod and keep that signal that level through all the other stages.


I also am using a compressor and EQ insert FX after my input that is a simple algorythm my Boos recorder has built into it as a line input FX.
If these effects are affecting the signal level the meters are reading, you could be killing the inputs without knowing it, because the signal is being turned down by the compressor.

Somewhere in the manual it will tell you where unity gain on the input and trim knob is. Set them both to unity gain and set the recording level with the Pod output (without the EQ and compressor on, turn them on after you get the input level adjusted properly)

That's all you have to do.


The new better sound is a bit bassy, but all I need to do is piss with the Pod a bit, AND TWO...... while playing back and recording at the same time, it seems as though I have to set my master level and track levels pretty high on the one playing back so I can hear the track and myself at the same time. What's this from? I would think I would be able to get to the point volume -wise where I would eventually get so loud I couldn't take it and have to back off(?).
Never confuse your monitoring level with your record level. They are two separate things.
 
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