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caryindy
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Nice. hehehe
participant
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My, how this song has evolved, Helen. How about WOW!!
You know, your voice is better... but it's great when you're singing "Phoolan Devi" in the intros... the stuff with heavy reverb. IMO that's your real singing voice. It's a much better vocal tone... more full. In the verses, you're kind of getting back into that real brassy voice tone... not quite nasally... if ONLY you could sing the verses like you sing those lines in the intro/choruses... mmmm... gooood vocals
The overall arrangement kicks BUTT over the old version. What's the deal with the techno breakdown? Whatever it is, it's friggin AWE some. Very nice job. You're really improving.
Chad
You know, your voice is better... but it's great when you're singing "Phoolan Devi" in the intros... the stuff with heavy reverb. IMO that's your real singing voice. It's a much better vocal tone... more full. In the verses, you're kind of getting back into that real brassy voice tone... not quite nasally... if ONLY you could sing the verses like you sing those lines in the intro/choruses... mmmm... gooood vocals
The overall arrangement kicks BUTT over the old version. What's the deal with the techno breakdown? Whatever it is, it's friggin AWE some. Very nice job. You're really improving.
Chad
skids
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Hey this is good. I am not usually into songs that say the same thing like 100 times in a song (LOL) but I am diggin this. I did not hear the previous versions but you really have something here. I think the composition is the key. Also, the repeated phrases are good in that they don't bore you after the third time. Nice hook.
My only complaint is the vocals. As Chad said they are little too nasally after the intro. Maybe you EQed out a few too many lows. I would like it a hair warmer in tone.
Oh, can you bring that high synth down a hair in the rave section. Just a little to brutal on the ears (headphones here).
Good luck on the contest. I think you have something here for sure. Let us know how you did.
Nice hook.My only complaint is the vocals. As Chad said they are little too nasally after the intro. Maybe you EQed out a few too many lows. I would like it a hair warmer in tone.
Oh, can you bring that high synth down a hair in the rave section. Just a little to brutal on the ears (headphones here).
Good luck on the contest. I think you have something here for sure. Let us know how you did.
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lynx
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I liked it, but I'm going to be a jerk and say I didn't enjoy the techo section of this very much.
I love the fact that there is a break in there but I felt it was a little over the top, the first few measures were cool but then you lost me big time....especially around 2:50!
I like the use of sitar and really like the use of synths in here, very creative. Good job.
I love the fact that there is a break in there but I felt it was a little over the top, the first few measures were cool but then you lost me big time....especially around 2:50!
I like the use of sitar and really like the use of synths in here, very creative. Good job.
bsanfordnyc
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I liked this tune! Especially the part in the middle where it goes crazy! Your screaming sounds great, but something with the mix makes it sound a little tinny...so the problem is definately not with your voice, only the effects.
I agree with the synth claps critique; kinda conflicts with the natural drums in the beginning.
Cheers!
I agree with the synth claps critique; kinda conflicts with the natural drums in the beginning.
Cheers!
bsanfordnyc
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PS: what is a phoolan devi?
Rick Hansen
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In my humble opinion...Loose the handclaps, they detract from the song. If your in love with them try and use them sparingly...for effect or to create a tension.
I am a big fan of tempo changes but they are hard to pull off. You transitioned VERY well but how about this... use the wild up-tempo part in the last 3rd of the song!!! That way people are left wanting to hear more of that wonderfull noise and you get to do a great fade out (very professional).
Just some ideas. I like your voice, I grew up in Jersey in the 50's and lived near Frankie Valle, you have some of the same qualities as him. He was recorded very well, maybe you can research how they smoothed him out and try some of those tricks for yourself.
Great job and well worth the effort.
Rick
I am a big fan of tempo changes but they are hard to pull off. You transitioned VERY well but how about this... use the wild up-tempo part in the last 3rd of the song!!! That way people are left wanting to hear more of that wonderfull noise and you get to do a great fade out (very professional).
Just some ideas. I like your voice, I grew up in Jersey in the 50's and lived near Frankie Valle, you have some of the same qualities as him. He was recorded very well, maybe you can research how they smoothed him out and try some of those tricks for yourself.
Great job and well worth the effort.
Rick
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twist
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Hmmmm........... Phoolan Devi........ sounds celtic, or at least from that part of the world, and I thought I noticed a celtic vibe in the music too. What made it interesting was the more modern sounds going on simultaneously with the traditional sounding theme. So who's Phoolan Devi? Sounds like an interesting story.
I get that thing in the throat too sometimes. Do you smoke? I smoke, so I know why I get it! Try drinking water or warm tea.
Twist
I get that thing in the throat too sometimes. Do you smoke? I smoke, so I know why I get it! Try drinking water or warm tea.
Twist
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Shaky Tee
Between being and nothing
Damn!!!
You people are just too damn nice!!!
You know, Lynx, I really didn't expect anyone to like that part, myself. The fact that it went over so well with so many is kind of a shock to me.
I really wanted it to be over the top...kinda keep in line with the story in the song.
As far as the hanclaps...they were part of the drum midi file. I thought some eq would help it out, but, to no avail.
Plus, it's a dance tune. Dem kids LUVE da funky handclaps!
I was a Frankie Valli fan as a kid, myself (big bro REALLY loved the oldies, LOL). I didn't think I was THAT nasal, tho,
Anyway, based on many of your suggestions, I did some further tweaking on the tune. The first "Phoolan Devi" hook doesn't sound so grating (I think), and the lead vocal sounds like it might be in the same room now (tho' I think I might have mixed a little too high...oh well...I've already submitted this mix to the contest).
Thanks again, everyone!
You people are just too damn nice!!!
You know, Lynx, I really didn't expect anyone to like that part, myself. The fact that it went over so well with so many is kind of a shock to me.
I really wanted it to be over the top...kinda keep in line with the story in the song.
As far as the hanclaps...they were part of the drum midi file. I thought some eq would help it out, but, to no avail.
Plus, it's a dance tune. Dem kids LUVE da funky handclaps!
I was a Frankie Valli fan as a kid, myself (big bro REALLY loved the oldies, LOL). I didn't think I was THAT nasal, tho,
Anyway, based on many of your suggestions, I did some further tweaking on the tune. The first "Phoolan Devi" hook doesn't sound so grating (I think), and the lead vocal sounds like it might be in the same room now (tho' I think I might have mixed a little too high...oh well...I've already submitted this mix to the contest).
Thanks again, everyone!
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Shaky Tee
Between being and nothing
I went to the ENT Specialist today regarding that very issue, and HE thinks I may be reacting to something in the air here, given that I'm not a native of this particular area. So he gave me some flonase and told me to drink lots of water.
I'm actually the only person in my family who doesn't smoke by the way.
Oh...and this is a phoolan devi.
AlChuck
Well-known member
It's better...
but the vocals are buried now, I can't make them out. The hi-fi version sounds quite lo-fi to me too overall...
Will try the download version and see if that's better...
-AlChuck
but the vocals are buried now, I can't make them out. The hi-fi version sounds quite lo-fi to me too overall...
Will try the download version and see if that's better...
-AlChuck
AlChuck
Well-known member
Never mind, that was the Lo Fi one...
Definitely an improvement...
I like the rave-up section, I think it works well, goes in and comes out quite successfully. Nice touch.
I think you should make the chorus say "Phoolan Devi" instead of "Phoolan Devi Devi" -- it will sound better and not collide with the foreground vocals as much...
I thought it was pretty amusing that somebody thought "Phoolan Devi" sounded Celtic. Although, have you ever heard Sheila Chandra? She is an Indian woman who lives in London and she sings Indian music andCeltic[/i] music, and blends them, she's got an absolutely amazing voice...
Definitely an improvement...
I like the rave-up section, I think it works well, goes in and comes out quite successfully. Nice touch.
I think you should make the chorus say "Phoolan Devi" instead of "Phoolan Devi Devi" -- it will sound better and not collide with the foreground vocals as much...
I thought it was pretty amusing that somebody thought "Phoolan Devi" sounded Celtic. Although, have you ever heard Sheila Chandra? She is an Indian woman who lives in London and she sings Indian music andCeltic[/i] music, and blends them, she's got an absolutely amazing voice...
Khompewtur
*Retired*
..damn.. no website with your picture this time 
it always is pleasant to admire while i kiss your ass
You did say 'kiss' didn't you? 
Whoa!! that change that happens in the middle is frenetic, totally out of control. Getting control of the tempo must've been a tough job. Your vox sound improved from the last one I heard from you, especially those choruses sound sweet. No worries Helen.
it always is pleasant to admire while i kiss your ass
You did say 'kiss' didn't you? Whoa!! that change that happens in the middle is frenetic, totally out of control. Getting control of the tempo must've been a tough job. Your vox sound improved from the last one I heard from you, especially those choruses sound sweet. No worries Helen.