Kick drum miking idea

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I always wondered what would happen if you mounted your mic on something like this:

http://www.fermatamusic.com/store/product_info.php?products_id=108

with some sort of shock mount on top, e.g.

http://www.fermatamusic.com/store/product_info.php?products_id=173

That way you could literally sit the whole thing inside the drum with nothing sticking out. Add a little isolator to hold the cable up off the hole in the head, all for less than the cost of a traditional desk mic stand with a boom.

Thoughts?
 
Bad idea, IMO. Even with the shock mount, you're bound to get some transduction from the drum itself. Not as bad as say a mic clip on a tom, but perhaps enough to interfere with the sound.
 
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you're saying all for less than the cost of a traditional low profile boom...
how much money are you really looking to save here

how are you going to get this in and out??? take the front head off? waste of time..and chances are it's gonna rattle around...
 
Terrible idea...sorry.

MayEA makes an isolation mounting system that suspends the microphone using existing hardware inside the drum, and routing the cable through a vent hole.
 
PYRRHO said:
Terrible idea...sorry.

MayEA makes an isolation mounting system that suspends the microphone using existing hardware inside the drum, and routing the cable through a vent hole.
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I've seen that. And if that works, I can't see why something like this wouldn't unless, of course, the mic is so light that the stand jumps around.
 
orksnork said:
you're saying all for less than the cost of a traditional low profile boom...
how much money are you really looking to save here

how are you going to get this in and out??? take the front head off? waste of time..and chances are it's gonna rattle around...
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For me, it's not about the cost savings. It's about not having the boom sticking out two feet in front of the drum....

As for getting it in and out, that's why I picked a tripod stand, You should be able to slide that through the vent hole after the drum is assembled, unlike permanently-attached mounts.
 
You could get a small Uni-Directional Electret capsule and mount it inside the Snare and have the Electronics mounted outside the Snare with the Wire comeing out the Hole and that could Possibly work and maybe even quite well if you can solve the SPL Problems with such capsules or use a -20db Pad....

I was actually considering trying that at one point but I haven"t had the Time with all of my other Projects.....


Cheers
 
No versatility

Well, if it works for YOU then, congrats.
A lot of drummers prefer the mic on a stand so that they can move it around. Some mic a foot away from the kick, some just slightly inside the hole, etc. So there's not much versatily for the positioning. Unless you always, want that dead close sound on the kick of just miking the beater side and not getting any resonance from the front head.
Everything I just said is a given, but that's just my generic opinion.
 
dgatwood said:
I always wondered what would happen if you mounted your mic on something like this:

http://www.fermatamusic.com/store/product_info.php?products_id=108

with some sort of shock mount on top, e.g.

http://www.fermatamusic.com/store/product_info.php?products_id=173

That way you could literally sit the whole thing inside the drum with nothing sticking out. Add a little isolator to hold the cable up off the hole in the head, all for less than the cost of a traditional desk mic stand with a boom.

Thoughts?
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I've done something similar. I picked up a Radio Shack desktop mic stand for like three bucks, put it in my bass drum on the muffling pillow, clipped on a cheap stage vocal mic, and put the head back on the drum.

I have a drum rack, so my toms aren't mounted to my bass drum. This made it possible to pass the cable up through the unused mounting bracket at the top of the drum.

The results were acceptable, I guess, given the fact that the whole set up cost about 15 dollars (minus the cost of the drum rack).

I've since moved up: I cut a crappy hole with a sheet rock knife and inserted a modded 57, giving much better results.

Hm. This post makes me look poor. :(
 
Just curious, would those "shockmounts" in the first post hold on to MXL 604's or CAD GXL1200's as overheads well, or would they be too risky to have the mics lose the grip?
 
SMX_Dizzy said:
Just curious, would those "shockmounts" in the first post hold on to MXL 604's or CAD GXL1200's as overheads well, or would they be too risky to have the mics lose the grip?
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I'm wondering if they'd hold a Shure VP-88. My piano mic could probably stand a little isolation.
 
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