Iv'e Got You My Son

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Hi all,

This is a song Gidge wrote and was kind enough to let me record.



Iv'e been working on it for a couple of months,and wanted to thank everyone who took the time to listen and make suggestions,I tried them all and used most of them!

Any comments on the final mix would be great.

Thanks,
Pete
 
Ok that that's out of the way... :D

two month and you got same drum kick pattern for the whole song??? :) That double kick might be ok sometimes but too much all the time.

somebody colab with this guy on drums ... :D

I like the mix. nice and clean but seems a little quite overall.
would like harmony on chorus.

Different instruments and parts are not very tight but it might be just preference thing I dunno.

it came a long way for sure.
good to see it develop, thanks for posting

cheers
 
ok that last post was a little short for being first comment, :)
I think I have a little more to say after I listened again.

That comment about tight playing what I think I ment was: in the chorus you try to build up with couple of other arpegio guitar parts and the mix is realy good IMHO but they are not very tight with the rithm and so they detract somewhat from the overall wellness of the song :) (phewh)

oh ye I do like the song, very nice.

cheers

man I am on the reviewing spree today :D
 
Hey Muze,
Did you redo the vocs on this. These sound much better than I remember in the last version. I like the acc. guits. especially the little run you do going into the Chorus. Some harmonies in the Chorus are a must. There are actually a few lines in the verse that might really stand out nicely with harmonies as well. Nicely done, G
 
Very sweet tune. Nice chord progression. Let's here more vocals on the chorus, maybe double them to bring them out. The drum patterns could be simpler, bass drum is too clicky. The songs itself is great, no need to change it, but... a vocal bridge might be something you would consider. You've got a great voice and you're a hell of a guitar player. I'm a huge Gordon Lightfoot fan and this kind of reminds me of him.

Jon
 
That's really good. No criticizm here!

Nice song, good job!;)
 
sounds really good for the most part, BUT

I think the vocals are a bit low at times.. Maybe it's more of an e.q. thing rather than a volume thing, but sometimes they were a bit low for a tune like this. I also thought some bass would have been nice. Was there any bass?


I'm not crazy about those drums... like I dont like them at all, but the guitar and vocals sound great.


It really is a nice tune performed well...


It seems to have a bit of a different feel than some previous versions you put up.. Seems like it moves a bit quicker from the other versions, which is cool, but sometimes can take away from the feeling imhop.. That's why I try not to spend too much time redoing the same song.... Sometimes the best feel is caught the first time imhop..

Overall great job muze.. Just ignore my complaints, It is a gift/curse I have...... I find fault in everything.. :D


sam
 
One more thing... If you want, I could probably add a few things to this for you..

I thought of a couple of fitting harmony's while listening.. especially in that pre-chorus.. Maybe I could add some type of bass if you'd like too..

drop me a p.m. if you want.. I wont be offended if you don't.. :D


late
sam
 
guitars

i loved the git's in this song! im a sucker for that finger squeak!
it's really add's to the feel of the song(imho) and the stereo spread sounded top notch to me(did i just say that, weird) your voice fit's the song perfect. nicceeeeeeee!!!:p

thank's

peace

rick
 
I think there is a big improvement in the mix, volumes...and all that kinda stuff. However, the one thing that still bugs me about this tune is the 'constantness' of it. In other words, the same instuments play from beginning to end, same volume, same kind tones, etc. The song needs some production.
Suggestions...and these just might be toooo much for some to, I can see.
1. build those chorus's up... Dble track the vocals, harmonies..something. It is very "singable", and it needs to stand out and let the listeners know...sing chorus --->HERE!!
2. your slide gtr. ...save it for the chorus's ..or something than all the way thru the tune. ...or between verses...intros, segues...a solo...in which the volume matches the lead vocal...right?
3. ac gtr lead. it is very similar with the same lick...which is good...and bad. build on it...like the 3rd time around, add a 2nd gtr playing along in harmony... 4th time around (is there a fourth?) do a variation. 5th time....go back to the original...get the idea?;)
4. drums....a drum roll someplace...maybe eh??
5. vocals...raise the volume up...about 25%
6.ac gtr rhythms.... build....see above. Watch the 'sameness' to them all they way thru.
7. pay no heed to 1-6!!...
8. Peace
 
Sorry I didn't reply sooner,I posted on Thursday and have been running ragged ever since!

Fed,

Thanks for listening!

Glad you liked it!

I have 4 differant guitars playing on the chorus,all double tracked,mabey to much?

The drums are canned,I have about 10 differant patterns throughout the song.
Tough to get a good feel with canned drums,especially against acoustic instruments.

Guernica,

Thanks very much!

I redid the vocals,tried to add a little more feel to them.
I'm going to try to sing some harmonies,problem is,I'm barely good enough to sing the lead!
Mabey Sam will add some of his fine vocals!

jjtcorsair,

Thanks for taking the time!
I know the bass drum sounds crappy,any suggestions on how I can make it sound more solid,eq mabey?
Thanks for the vocal and guitar comments!

Gordon Lightfoot in my dreams!
:D

A Reel Person,

Thanks Dave!


mkg,

Thank you for saying that,I really appreciate it!

B.SABBATH,

Thanks Sam,
I tried to keep the vocals low,to low I guess!
Any suggestions for eq settings!

I'm really glad you liked it,I changed the production to give it more feel,I decided to play the acoustic guitars like I really play,I'm a flatpicker, learned to play by imitating Neil Young.
I pretty much beat the crap out my guitar,usually break a pick every five minutes!
:D

I dropped you a PM-collaborations rule!

fenderlikingood ,

Thanks,
I like the finger squeaks too!
I thought mabey they were to much.

I spread the stereo pan in Cubase,they gave me a free stereo expander with one of their updates,it's the only thing I use it for,but works great!

Mix,

Thanks for taking the time!

Glad you liked the mix,your suggestions really helped!

I'll try double tracking the chorus,and all your other suggestions,especially raising the vocal volume.
Can't do a drum roll,my drum machine dosn't do it.
:(

I always appreciate your input,thanks!


Well I guess it's back to the drawing board.
:eek:


Thanks very much,
Pete
 
B.SABBATH said:
check your mail, man..
Click to expand...

sabb...say that sentence out loud...eh?;)
(or do you have carriers of the female persuasion?)
 
sounds great dude.....

if this is the final version, it sounds great......

if you take it to the next step, mixmkr has made excellent suggestions.....

for help building up the chorus, id definitely like to hear background vocals...i dont know if id add any more to the chorus, but rather id take some away from the verses....take it down to one track of guitar and maybe take out the drums........that would give the same impression of a buildup.....

yep, bring the vocal up a tad.....

my problem with the kick is that it doesnt sound like it knows if it wants to be heard or buried.....i cant really feel it......i think a b sabbath bass line would help bring it out.......

still in all, as is, i like it alot.....youve done a great job so far.....

Mike
 
Gidge said:

...i dont know if id add any more to the chorus, but rather id take some away from the verses....take it down to one track of guitar and maybe take out the drums........that would give the same impression of a buildup.....
Click to expand...

that would be a great idea too....and possibly keep things from becoming too cluttered. There's plenty of guitars in there now as it is.
 
I'm having a real hard time here guys!
My server is totally screwed up!

Iv'e been at it for three hours now,they either won't connect me,or keep kicking me off.

Guess it's time for cable modem,dial ups just not worth it anymore!

I'll get back as soon as I can.

Thanks,
Pete
 
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Well I made it back.
My servers been down all week,I just installed Optimum online,really great!

I'm trying to get an mp3 to Sam now,so he can work some magic!

Gidge,
I'm really glad you like it,I took your advice and sent Sam a bare bones version to work on,actually sounds much better.
I think I try to add to much some times.
I'll let you know how it progresses.

Mix,
I lost most of the extras,organ,bass,drums,doubled guitars,sounds much cleaner,thanks.

Best to you,
Pete
 
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