Is this a good set up?

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So me and my mate have set up a new studio, for commercial purposes, and have been recommended this:

Mixing Desk: Allen and Heath ZED436

Monitors: Yamaha NS10(Pair) , KRK R6(pair)

Outboard: Tubetech CL1B, UA 1176, DBX 160SL, Focusrite Red 2, TLA C1, TC Electronic Finalizer Express

Mics: Vocal – MXL V69 x5, Drum – Samson 8 Kit 8 Piece Drum Mic Set
- Samson CO1 X3

Computer: Mac Pro 8-Core, Apple Thunderbolt Display.

Software: Apple Logic Studio 9



Is it any good?

thanks! :)
 
I'm guessing from your question, you guys have no recording experience (yet)? 5 vocal mics? Are you going to be recording 5 singers at the same time?

You're going to need mic stands, cables, pop filters, headphones, a headphone amp for the studio room, playback speakers for the studio room, room treatment ...
 
I say skip the Samson mic's and find something better (sennheiser, beyerdynamic, shure).

Also do you know, that you are going to get only stereo out of A&H? (no separate tracks) If looking at A&H mixers, then better option would be ZED-R16 or GS-R24
 
#1. I don't see any kind of interface and the ecause you list a daw I'm assuming your recording digital.

#2. The weak link in that chain is you mics. Your spending a lot of money, but those are fairly cheap mics.



If you're going into it as a business I suggest doing a lot of research and reading before making the purchases.
 
mjbphotos said:
I'm guessing from your question, you guys have no recording experience (yet)? 5 vocal mics? Are you going to be recording 5 singers at the same time?

You're going to need mic stands, cables, pop filters, headphones, a headphone amp for the studio room, playback speakers for the studio room, room treatment ...
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Was just thinking that before I scrolled down lol

I'd say maybe have two 69s at most (giggity) and get some sm57s, a different vocal mic(for different flavor) ,or something better for overheads. I'd skip on the drum mics as well, think about it...$300 for 8 mics...around $40 a mic brand new? It's not in every case, but in most cases your going to have to pay for quality.

What is your overall budget? Gaging off prices of the above....

Sooo I'd get a Sure drum Mic set instead (3 57s and a 52a beta), skip on 3 of the 69s, and get 2 more 57s if you think your going to need that many mics for drums? Then for some pretty good overheads I'd suggest mxl 603s, cost to quality, they're pretty good. I'd get a sure sm7b and then use the rest of the money to get necessary stands, cables, headphones, and most importantly sound treatment.


and what is this a commercial studio not using protools?!?! :cursing:


:rolleyes:
 
^ x 10 the Zed is a 2 channel USB interface you need the r16 FIREWIRE and about 3 x the cost.
Are you talking about the RED (NET) 2? interface?
Rethink your mic selection
An amp for the NS10's (why bother?)
You have to realise a very large part of your budget will go on cables / stands / and odds n sods
Where's your DAW?
 
I don't really understand the choice of desk. That's a live sound PA desk, not a studio desk. You would have to monitor through Logic the whole time to mix, and then record a stereo back in. No automation either, so you'd have to mix 'in the box' anyway, so why bother with the desk at all?? It's not going to work as an interface as it will only give you 2 channels of digital audio, as has been pointed out here already.
I don't think it would even work very well as a home studio desk, so it seems unlikely to be attractive commercially.
 
in addition to all the pertinent comments above, I would say that at this stage there is no need for any of the outboard gear.
 
gecko zzed said:
in addition to all the pertinent comments above, I would say that at this stage there is no need for any of the outboard gear.
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Agreed. Maybe a nice preamp, but add everything else as you need it.
 
Capt Hair said:
and what is this a commercial studio not using protools?!?! :cursing:
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LOL. If they're just starting out, they really don't need protools. The only thing they would need it for is mixing tracks recorded in other studios that used Protools. I use Cubase in my studio and people pay me. I honestly would get the same result with each DAW. And I would get that result much slower with Protools because I'm much more familiar with Cubase.

I highly recommend you guys buy better mics...
 
CrowsofFritz said:
LOL. If they're just starting out, they really don't need protools. The only thing they would need it for is mixing tracks recorded in other studios that used Protools. I use Cubase in my studio and people pay me. I honestly would get the same result with each DAW. And I would get that result much slower with Protools because I'm much more familiar with Cubase.

I highly recommend you guys buy better mics...
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haha I know. I was just kidding to an extent, they all do the same thing and it's all about familiarity with what your using.

The studio i'm interning at just has nailed it into my head to that true professionals use protools. They don't accept any other format anymore, they did for a while but there were too many errors with trying to load in audio, missing pieces, and just improper file management from the tracking process, that and you would try to load up a project and things would be missing, files would be all over the place. Just a big headache. SO they don't even deal with it anymore. Which I like, because guess whose job it was to sort out the files and make sure it was usable when something like that came in? This guy lol

You can either record it yourself with protools and they'll mix it or you can go into their studio and track and mix.
 
Haha! Nobody has criticised the monitors or the Mac yet...
 
I did! he hasn't got an amp for the NS10's - I let him off the Mac thing cos obviously he don't know any different :)
 
I don't understand how he has many weak points in his setup, but he is still going to fork up the money for a UA 1176, a Tube Tech, a TL compressor, and a Focusrite Red 2...

If your going to buy gear that expensive, you should know what your doing, and you shouldn't really be asking us for anything.
 
I for one would die to have a 1176 in my basement!!!!!!!!!!!! Saw one at the music store yesterday and it was calling to me...
 
You've "setup a studio for commercial purposes" but don't have any of the necessary gear? You should probably get some experience before jumping in and ruining any chance you have of commercial success.

Case in point...a $2k outboard limiter, $3500 compressor but $80 condenser mics. 5 of the exact same mic just for vocals. Recording software but no interface listed, as somebody else pointed out.

Really. Do more homework.
 
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