Is the traditional out board mixing console coming to an end?

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There are numerous software companies that create recording programs that feature virtual mixers that far exceed many well known outboard mixers in terms of functionality and amount of tracks. Although their sound does not quite exceed SSL or Neve, there getting pretty damn close. I was considering buying a 24 x 8 Mackie board mixer but now I just considering buying a nice control surface to go along with Nuendo, does anyone have any suggestions?
 
Is the traditional out board mixing console coming to an end?

for the half-bright, yes.
 
A dedicated control surface, like a mackie HUI, isn't going to get you the mic pre's, EQ, routing capabilities and effects that a traditional board will.

On the other hand:
I'm a Nuendo user. I have been since it's inception of version 1.0
I use a digital mixer. A Yamaha O1V to be precise.
The O1V works great as a control surface for Nuendo. It integrates seamlessly, and has no noticable latency. It's on board mic pre's are rather lack-luster in my opinion though, so I use outboard pres.

It's effects units: EQ, Reverb, Compression, et al are, well, OK I guess, but I prefer outboard gear for most of that. Nuendo's Compressors, both broad band and multi band, are very nice and easy to insert into a track or mix.

With the right combination of digital gear, and traditional outboard gear, you can turn out some damn good sounding tracks!

So, is the traditional mixing board comming to an end?
I don't believe so. It, like all great equipment, will always have its place and specific use in the studio.
For most of us, it comes down to a matter of which road you want to take to arrive at your destination.
 
the analog mixer definately isnt coming to an end in my studio! actually its time to upgrade. i have a mackie 24/8 i'll sell ya. its probably too much of a hassle though as i live up in the great white north. (canada)
 
NEVER!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Tonecee said:
Although their sound does not quite exceed SSL or Neve, there getting pretty damn close.
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That's just retarded. Have you ever mixed on a SSL or a Neve designed console? I have. A computer will never replace them. Especially in pro studios. I'd never pay to record in a studio without a nice console.

sweetnubs, thats the most intelligent post I've ever seen from you.

H2H
 
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Hard2Hear said:
That's just retarded. Have you ever mixed on a SSL or a Neve designed console? I have. A computer will never replace them. Especially in pro studios. I'd never pay to record in a studio without a nice console.

H2H
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H2H,

I love mixing on boards period. I have mixed on SSL (go to the thread with the pics and see mine...) Amek, Neve, Quad 8, Harrison to name a few But......things are going to change.
The current studio I'm working at just brought the newest HD PT hardware and I can say that at least for me it's the first time digital is comming real damm close. The upgrade from the older digi hardware goes a long way. I see things going towards outboard gear like Neve pre strips and Quad 8 EQ's and all but the recordings will be all done on digital. The summing isnt there yet but for analog summing you dont need a big board but rather a summing board only (even better.... to eliminate all the noise generated by other sections of the channal). Todays digital mixing boards in my humble opinion are a peice of crap....nice peices of crap but still crap.

I'm sure there will be people who will always use a Analog mixer but a few years down there will be no fighting it and no real reason. Even more - you will lose clients going only the analog way as time and efficiency play a major part in todays world.

Hear what I'm saying....I'm not blindly saying digital is todays world and blah blah blah. I'm saying that digital leaps every few years upwards and is closing in real fast. So dont be to surprised when a few top notch studios shelf analog mixing boards and go all digital in 5-10 years from today.

Specialized (analog) hardware Pre's, Reverbs, EQ's and compressors ? Yes. Analog mixing boards? will be something in the past.
 
Even IF (and that's a big if) computer mixing could render the sonic clarity and detail that a nice analog mixer can I would still prefer to be able to touch and see my mix on a board...not a screen.

Long live the fader.
 
tracking on the board and mixing in pt can be cool too. best of both worlds for me.
 
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i want anything better than a mackie :D I really liked the mackie when i first got it, but after doing sound on the road for 6 months using soundcrafts and Midas', the mackie really doesnt cut it anymore. so maybe an old soundcraft series 500. i dont know for sure yet.
 
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