joro
The Pie Guy
Well?
What say you wordsmiths....?
What say you wordsmiths....?
bdbdbuck
New member
Well, at this point.......check the poll results. I've been writing for 35 years, and didn't know I had prosody......I did see the doctor to get it taken care of though, he said the rash would clear up in a few days. Thanks for the heads up!
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stonepiano
Member
I think all songwriters inherently look for a sing-song type quality in the lyrics we write. It might not be intentional but we're all making sure things "sing" well. At least, I am.
Can anyone think of an successful, well-known song that completely disregards any rhythmic order? Do any of your songs not fit the rhythm of the song?
Can anyone think of an successful, well-known song that completely disregards any rhythmic order? Do any of your songs not fit the rhythm of the song?
Jagular
Active member
I answered yes, but I can't always make it work
Kramer
Well-known member
Main Entry: pros·o·dy
Pronunciation: 'prä-s&-dE, -z&-
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural -dies
Etymology: Middle English, from Latin prosodia accent of a syllable, from Greek prosOidia song sung to instrumental music, accent, from pros in addition to + OidE song -- more at PROS-, ODE
Date: 15th century
1 : the study of versification; especially : the systematic study of metrical structure
2 : a particular system, theory, or style of versification
3 : the rhythmic and intonational aspect of language
- pros·o·dist /-dist/ noun
Pronunciation: 'prä-s&-dE, -z&-
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural -dies
Etymology: Middle English, from Latin prosodia accent of a syllable, from Greek prosOidia song sung to instrumental music, accent, from pros in addition to + OidE song -- more at PROS-, ODE
Date: 15th century
1 : the study of versification; especially : the systematic study of metrical structure
2 : a particular system, theory, or style of versification
3 : the rhythmic and intonational aspect of language
- pros·o·dist /-dist/ noun
Buffalo Bob
New member
I find no fascination
In diversifying my versification
I hardly have the time
To make the damned things rhyme!
In diversifying my versification
I hardly have the time
To make the damned things rhyme!
Jagular
Active member
Buffalo Bob said:
hehe...nice one
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mikeh
New member
Some of Paul Simon's material may occasionally test the outer bounderies of the fundamental concept of prosody!
Garry Sharp
Lost Cause
stonepiano - how about Alanis Morrisette. Especially live. She waits 'til the end of the bar and then unleashes the lot.
Her Jagged Pill Live DVD (which ain't got no prosody!) has a lot of tedious crap in it but is worth watching for some absolute gems of performance and especially timing..
Her Jagged Pill Live DVD (which ain't got no prosody!) has a lot of tedious crap in it but is worth watching for some absolute gems of performance and especially timing..
joro
The Pie Guy
Buffalo Bob said:
LOL!
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limoguy
New member
3 : the rhythmic and intonational aspect of language
- pros·o·dist /-dist/ noun
The spoken, english language exhibits prosody all by itself. The syllables we stress when we speak create a musical melody all by themselves. Our voice unconsciously rises ever so slightly when we speak the stressed syllables in the words of our conversation, thus creating a melody.
Unfortunately...I have no idea if this applies to what is being queried here or not because I just dropped my prosody on the floor and it has created one heckofa mess!
Peace!
Limoguy
- pros·o·dist /-dist/ noun
The spoken, english language exhibits prosody all by itself. The syllables we stress when we speak create a musical melody all by themselves. Our voice unconsciously rises ever so slightly when we speak the stressed syllables in the words of our conversation, thus creating a melody.
Unfortunately...I have no idea if this applies to what is being queried here or not because I just dropped my prosody on the floor and it has created one heckofa mess!
Peace!
Limoguy
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Layla Nahar
New member
aaaww man -- I just have to do more writing ...
tanlith
King of the Wicker People
Lyrics can make or break a song. In the same breath I could say if the music sucks and the lyrics are brilliant ... the song still sucks...
Here is an excellent example of brilliant lyrics delivered ... there's no real spacific form to how they flow... kind of free form... but the song is brilliant...
It's a group called Jim's Big Ego and the song's called Stress
Anyone for a cup of Java? (Listen to the song... you'll get it then)
- Tanlith -
(Eternal Noob)
Yes it's true! I'm an Acid Pro junkie!!
Here is an excellent example of brilliant lyrics delivered ... there's no real spacific form to how they flow... kind of free form... but the song is brilliant...
It's a group called Jim's Big Ego and the song's called Stress
Anyone for a cup of Java? (Listen to the song... you'll get it then)
- Tanlith -
(Eternal Noob)
Yes it's true! I'm an Acid Pro junkie!!
Gidge
Lapdance Test Dummy
i voted yes....
i like structure.....
i like structure.....
tanlith
King of the Wicker People
Prosody ... ok I admit... I hadda look it up... my original reply was gunna go something like this:
"Yeah... I had one of those... but the wheels fell off..."
- Tanlith -
"Yeah... I had one of those... but the wheels fell off..."
- Tanlith -
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chazba
terminally hip
LET ME QUOTE FROM CHAZBA'S BOOK OF WISDOM
"A SONG WITHOUT PROSODY IS LIKE SOUP WITHOUT LIQUID"
CHAZBA
"A SONG WITHOUT PROSODY IS LIKE SOUP WITHOUT LIQUID"
CHAZBA
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Mad Hack
New member
prosody...
First of all, prosody is a way of looking at the rythmic structure of language, it is not necessarily that structure itself. Even if something lacks rhythm, and that's pretty hard to imagine, even in something like a chant, it has a prosody.
If a line is able to be sung quickly and in little space, it is the skillful assembling of syllables that makes it possible. There is a natural prosody that English tends to follow, and without it we'd all sort of sound like the dwarf and Laura Palmer in the red room on Twin Peaks.
All poems and speech in general, have metre, and it is that that gives them their music. The rhythms are more complex when you add notes and percussion to the mix. Whether or not you are conscious of words' rhythm when you are writing is another question. It seems inevitable that you must be, however, if words and music are to have anything to do with one another.
First of all, prosody is a way of looking at the rythmic structure of language, it is not necessarily that structure itself. Even if something lacks rhythm, and that's pretty hard to imagine, even in something like a chant, it has a prosody.
If a line is able to be sung quickly and in little space, it is the skillful assembling of syllables that makes it possible. There is a natural prosody that English tends to follow, and without it we'd all sort of sound like the dwarf and Laura Palmer in the red room on Twin Peaks.
All poems and speech in general, have metre, and it is that that gives them their music. The rhythms are more complex when you add notes and percussion to the mix. Whether or not you are conscious of words' rhythm when you are writing is another question. It seems inevitable that you must be, however, if words and music are to have anything to do with one another.
Buffalo Bob
New member
Some say metre
Some say meter
Some say either
Some say eidder
Metre, meter
Either, eidder
Let's call the whole thing off.
Some say meter
Some say either
Some say eidder
Metre, meter
Either, eidder
Let's call the whole thing off.
crawdad
Dammit, Jim, Shut Up!
Yes, its important to me. I think of it as being kind of like the underlying "manners" of a song, so to speak. It makes it all more comfortable to listen to, and--like Gidge--I like structure. Little variances don't bother me at all, but chaos does!
zer0sig
headpiece full of straw
i don't necessarily focus much on prosody, but i find that the lyrics i write exhibit it, because they SOUND better being read to myself. various literary devices come out because they sound better, rather than because i'm trying to use some specific method of producing them. over time, that sort of thing becomes rahter automatic. hell, i find myself speaking in meter at times.