is my comp strong enough for protools???

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with respect

there are too many pro tools studios around already.
studio rates are already devalued. because every young turk
uses the same logic.
in a few years you will see i make sense.
 
lost studios said:
all offer much more capability IMHO than the included protools LE bundle (which will not work with any non protools interface). Not to mention there's no silly 32 track audio limit on these apps.
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Not true. Protools will work with any audio inface that has an ADAT optical interface. You could use a nice 8 channel apogee converter in conjuntion with your 001 or 002.

You can get more than 32 tracks with a SCSI drive.
 
price

i could say i use protools... and dude.. i charge 10 bucks a song... i do it to learn and have fun.. i like having gigs... so i keep it dirt cheap... so ppl like that.... so i wont just be another kid on hte block
 
No problem!

lbcstudios said:
thx for the suggestions.. but i have looked at everything else.. and i think the 002 rack is what im looking for... and i think the protools name.. saying i use.. will bring a few more clients.. but heres a few ?s i still got..

... the 002 rack says it has phantom power... 48V phantom power enabled on channel pairs... does that mean it has them on all 4 pres?... and on channel pairs.. wat if im using a condenser on #1 pre... and a sm 57 on # 2... no prob right? and i do alot of computer gaming.... i never have owned anything firewire.. so im not sure about this: if im playing a game...or watching a movie on my comp... will i be able to run that through the rack??? like... will it at a a pci card? sort of? im confused... and will it come with a hardware controller panel like my delta 66 came with?
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Yes the 002 rack has the phantom power on all four and there won't be any problems. As to the hardware interface, that would be the Digi 002 rack.

Now for the other things you do on your computer? I'm not too sure because when I got my 002 rack I just spent the extra money and built a PC just for the unit. There could be some conflicts running Pro Tools if you have too many processes from other software running in the background. (something to consider)

In regards to using the firewire port? In most cases you wouldn't run other devices through the Digi 002 rack unless your using Pro Tools to edit video or audio or what ever you've hooked up. I would guess that your firewire card would have more than one input on it, so I'd suggest using that input instead.

As an added note. I got my Digi 002 rack about 8 months ago and I have been very happy with the system. It's more then what I need and I think there are more I/O options that some people realize. I don't have any regrets about getting the 002 rack. As a matter of fact the more I learn about the system and it's software, the more I enjoy working with Pro Tools.

All the best
sonicpaint
 
Re: with respect

manning1 said:
there are too many pro tools studios around already.
studio rates are already devalued. because every young turk
uses the same logic.
in a few years you will see i make sense.
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I agree.

I've noticed a lot of project and home studios moving into per song rates. That's good for people wanting to go into the studio, but it's bad for studios as a whole. I've noticed over the last 7 years that as home studio equipment gets more advanced and cost effective, the recording process becomes more homogenized. I fear for the industry overall. Good companies are going to be falling to the wayside unless they adapt. At this rate I give analog in commercial studios another 10 years before it's ousted by non-linear digital workstations. Digital boards and hard disk editing will be the norm not because it's better than analog, but rather more desired by mooks and label execs who only see product and not art.
 
rvdsm

in the industry the way things are trending you either
are now a big studio that attracts the elite gold artists and
producers or stay very tiny. the middle studios are going to get
a hard time of it. over the years i owned 3 studios. i did business not because of the equipment i had but because folks came to trust my judgement and experience.
imho the worst thing you can do these days is spend over
10k on a studio. because unless youve built a rep its doubtfull you will see a return on your investment.
imho the soundcards are getting so good the whole cost structure is collapsing. a good sound card a few good mics
and an under 100 buck piece of multitrack software is all you need. the rest is good songs and engineering.
 
I've noticed a lot of project and home studios moving into per song rates. That's good for people wanting to go into the studio, but it's bad for studios as a whole. I've noticed over the last 7 years that as home studio equipment gets more advanced and cost effective, the recording process becomes more homogenized.
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No matter how good DAWs will get in the years to come, there are no shortcuts to kick-ass room acoustics. It doesn't come cheap. There will always be a market for high-end studios just because of that.
 
amd athlon xp 1800

well.. i got another Harddrive... got a firewire card that was recommended with the 002 rack.. im gonna order tomm.. i hope my athlon xp 1800 can take it... the minimun is xp 1500.. recommended is xp 2000 .... any thoughts?
 
Did not read all replys but just thought I would throw this out there.

Digidesign takes a cool approach to how the present their compatablity documents.

They make thier system requirements harsh because they want your system to work flawlessly. Most other companies will promise you the world and AFTER you buy you find out that you need some super Computer to get the results you were promised. I have seen pro tools run pretty good on systems well below Digi's standards
 
sonicpaint, those links arent working for me, Id really like to check out that info....
 
PT plugs

ok thx... i should be good with my hardware.... thx for the site on the tips aout optimizing the comp.. ill do a few of those... im jw... i have heard ppl saying PT is nice because u can go plugin happy... and they are better than most cause they are TDM based..... wat plugins would be useful that come when recording rock and indie? wat does that mean... TDM? thx
 
fldrummer got them working.

Hey fldrummer, thanks for getting those links working. I don't know why they didn't work when I put them up....hmmmm..strange. Anyway hope all who've read the pages found them helpful.


Now about going plug-in happy? I wouldn't go that far. Depending on your system, plug-in count will vary quite a bit unless your using DigiDesigns hardware based processing chips/cards as in their TDM systems.

sonicpaint
 
got it

hey guys.. wanted to update you on my situation... i got the digi 002 rack.. i like it alot.. the pres sound good... one thing tho.... when i try to import an mp3.. it says i need to authorize the plugin used to impoort mp3s.... somethin about a ilok key....? wtf...?
 
Hmmm....

I have had the same thing happen. I've only tried it once so I really haven't messed around to see if you need to buy some sort of plug-in to allow that or what. If anyone knows I'd be happy to find hear it. I'm going to go to the Digi site and check it out to see whats up with this.

later,
sonicpaint
 
I checked it out.

It seems that the function is supposed to work though it seems that many people have had this problem. The solutions seems to be reinstalling Pro Tools LE software. The answers I found mentioned something about a .dll file being corrupted. Give that a try and see if that helps. If you need more info the DigiDesign support page is a great resource if you haven't used it already.

sonicpaint
 
MP3 functionality is an add-on for Pro Tools, and requires an ilok to function. Prior to v.6, the demo version worked for 15 days or so with full functionality. I guess that you need an ilok to unlock the demo, now.

Its only a $20 add-on, but the ilok will be another $40 on top of it. You should only need 1 ilok for the rest of your plugs, as well, so its usually a one-time expense.

Take care,
Chris
 
He should have gotten Cubase

A
Yeah maybe having 32 tracks isnt a limit to those of us who never needed 48 or 56 tracks before
If you do rock..you might have your vocals quad tracked and doubled...we not even talking instruments yet...your drum kits are gonna take up at least 9 or 10 tracks, thats if you use all of your drums for that particular song..we're already up to a possible 14 tracks and thats with NO instruments except the vocalists voice and drums. lets be conservative and give one track to the rhythm guitar, one track to the lead, one track to the bass. We're already at 17 tracks with just the barebones...and no choruses....basically my scenario isnt so far fetched and if you have a artist that needs alot of tracks you will have to bounce down.

me i dont like bouncing down anything...

ive ran well over 50 tracks before on a 1.2 ghz duron system and part of the issue is being forgotten here...32 stereo tracks is quite a bit of processing power when you think about it...however if you have rock songs and rock bands that you're gonna be working with...those songs tend to be near or over the limits that you'll be working with. So you'll have to upgrade to meet a higher creative demand or creatively bounce your tracks, which is a pain in the butt for me.

B

If you're going to be using Pro Tools Professionally, then you should know that those people who use pro tools HD and TDM are also faced with a HUGE upgrade that they have to buy into every couple of years in order to stay "state of the art" compliant, from what i understand thats 5000 dollars every 3 or 4 years. This btw is not an upgrade for a Digi 002. That Digi 002 rack is a powerful piece of equipment...once you BUY your plug ins...unless you have a good deal of outboard gear..you're gonna need some audio plug ins and last time i checked RTAS plug ins arent cheap so more likely than not you're gonna be messing with VST plugs and Direct X plugs.

For what you're doing I would recommend VST Amplitube, Digital Fishphones, and the Classic Series plugins. Just for starters. I good dose of proper eq knowledge never hurt anyone either. You can look up eq faqs and how tos on the web ...they give you pretty good results and a basic grasp of how to use your eq knobs!

BTW

Studios also have been advertising Cubase VST and SX professionally for a while now. You should also know that the Hit Factory among others in the New York City Area have switched to Logic on Mac...Cubase is only 800 bucks brand new...meanwhile for the kind of money you spent you could have purchased Nuendo..which is a BEAST of a program.

Anyways best of luck please post up some work that you've done with your set up

Peace
Illa
 
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