Internet Band?

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Has anyone ever tried an internet band? I'm thinking of leaving my band due to loss of interest in the musical direction and I don't really want to start another local gigging band. But I still want to write music and such, namely just recording. Thoughts?
 
Indaba site is so slow and hard to navigate...I am a member but dont go there very often

I would check out and invite you to the collab site I use the most.

http://www.musicianscollaboration.com/forum/index.php

The invite goes out to everyone reading this...not that you need my invite.

You can only view collabs as a member.

Hope to see you there.
 
Multi-tracking over the internet is fairly easy with broadband, and I've participated in such many times.

The one problem I run into often is band members committing their track by a certain date, and not delivering even remotely close to that date and I'm not there in person to push them to their commitment.

It's easier to blow someone off if they're 1000's of miles away through an email address. In person, not so much.

I prefer myself to play as a group in a studio (makeshift, home or pro) because I've generally found in my own playing (as limited as it is) I end up playing with a lot more feel, which I get from the musicians I am playing with. The better the company, the better I myself sound.

Part of what gives me the "feel" factor is visual - obviously if I hear a drummer's pre-recorded track I can lay a bass line down against it easily enough, but if I see the drummer playing the track I seem to zero in and nail my track that much easier. I think the internet removes some of that, though many musicians are uneffected by not seeing the other musicians play.

The one major advantage of the internet however is access - if I want to record a song and my "usual" guitar player friend is unavailable, I could reach out to the internet and fine a good guitarist fairly quickly, and they're all over too. Just take a gander around here and you'll see what I mean. Same applies to drummers, bassists, keyboardists, even celloists.

Just some thoughts...
 
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A long time ago, i wa a drummer, but certainly not a great one. I was decent, and worked at it, but... in the 80's the super-slick double bass and slick long rolls just became "compulsory" and a decent "regular" drummer was poo-poo-ed on...

drummers got to the point in metal wherre you had to be able to do the "whole song is a solo" trick or you were "inadequate"


anyhoo... I came back into this accidentally. computers in my view have 2 major advantages. ONE, for me they allow me to learn to actually compose, by having the computer play several parts at once, as I can learn as much music theory as my head can take without eploding, but, no way can I learn to play 18 different instrruments competently enough while learning to compose at the same time... only 24 hours in a day...

the other advantage is unless your in a major city, theres only so many musicians in a small area. The coolest drummer might be an ego case, the coolest guitarist might get serious with a money grubbing chicl who starts dangling her puddy in front of him, etoling him to get a "real" job and take on "real" obligations (and paycheck for her to spend, of course, LMAO)

then you got your singers that cant perform without a big line of toot, and a si pack, and good singers are HARD to find in a small area, so you gotta live with the "pro in his head" guy blowing in, singing the 3 songs, and jetting out to party, leaving the "band" instructions on which 3 songs they "will work on" till 3 days later when he dictates he'll be back...

*sigh*

A guitarist friend played decent by ear, but mundane and covers only. He wanted me to "figure out" this "pentatonic thingy" that all the best guitarists were doing...

later on, I wanted to collab with hi, and lay on him what he had ASKED for, and he's uninterested *rolls eyes*

we would worrk on somethng coming out pretty cool, then the net day I want to start where we left off, and he's like "hey, I'm playing in the same chords". I'm like "that is NOT remotely the same song we left on"

"Dude, sheet music is lame, there's no feeling in it, man... this is how I am feeling TODAY, man... its got to be real, you know?"


etc etc etc

AAAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!

I can dig partying, I can dig having a serious old lady, I can dig not being into sheetmusic and playing better by ear and feel.... but what I CANT dig is the complete inability to continue on the decent start we had the night before! Thats insane!

how about the "we do songs like band 'x', theyre cool" cover only bands, or copycat type one dimensional "so called orrigial" bands? and you wanna learn to WRITE stuff orifinal, eh?

AAAAAAAHHHHHH!!!!!!!

THEN you figure out who the serious members would be, talk to them, only it cant happen... because billy cant quit THIS band, 'cos his old lady for 10 years is related to the "merely okay" drummer, and THAT would ruin his life...

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!


sure, playing and writing "live" is great stuff. Real musicians learn to talk with their eyes and body language. as a drummer, I "zenned" it the bass players, they are half "musicians" and half "rhythm guys" like us drummers are...me adn the bass players head nodding and body language was really cool in most bands.

if there's no bass player, man, drumers can easily just be "told" to HEY, look dude... do that basic beat you do. We're working on a cool number I think...

a drummer is not simply a "human drum machine" and if one DOES want to pitch vocal hook ideas, or a cool riff they can hear in their head... no ones listening to "the drummer, man"... I can talk to the bass player, though, and HE can pitch a idea to the band, and they might like it.

I could "imitate" the guitar sound I am picturing, and he can eplain to the rhythm guitarist what "he" wants.

if it works? you get no credit at all.
AAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!

I mean, if your a serious musician, who isnt hooked on alcohol and drugs and underage girls... AND youre in a huge metroplitan mega city with PEEPS to choose from... well, thats cool

stuck in a smaller area? *your screwed*, LMAO



you have 2 options... learn to slowly do it all yourself on a computer, until SOMEone recognies what you can do, and sees it as a valuable resource... OR, you get to collab by email.

Musicians can be VERY hard to get along with, anbd it only takes ONE member to RUIN a years wrth of work really coming along, with any of the major pitfalls...

the internet, and the comuter for composing as a one man studio, are the only realistic options if you dont hapen to live in LA, you know?

come on... where iin the F@CK in this small steel town, am i EVER going to find someone to play a SITAR if I really thinka slow song I am working on needs one, maybe?

I can change it to a violin part... try that out... then collab with a real serious guitarist or drummer if i can locate one who digs what I;m into at the moment...

I'm LOST in music without the computer and the internet.

hard core classical music theory is FREE on the internet, you know, if your motivated and have half a brain. (I'm pretty sure I have almost half a brain, I think, LMAO)

I could just STRANGLE small town musicians. They are "fun" to practice with, and play some covers at the local watering holes, but... *its rough* if your serious...

"ALL HAIL THE COMPUTER AND THE INTERNET" if you live in a small town.

PS - if you are a small town musician, and your good and serious, sorry... wish you lived in MY small town, eh? LMAO....
 
Having recorded many garage bands doing covers (and sometimes originals) many moons ago I feel his pain.

I think it this site I posted about this - one band actually spent just about all of their pre-paid studio day arguing with each other. And arguing and arguing.

I and other employees attemted several times to corral them so they'd actually record something, but we kept getting told "butt the f--k out" so.... they paid good money basically to argue in the live room while we watched.

I've also had bands come in that were the opposite - they came in prepared, ready to go, set up quickly, we mic'd them as fast as they set up, and within 25 minutes we had tape rolling as they played through there already determined set.

Some people just don't get it!
 
SEDstar,
I apologise for all the drummer bashing I have done for the last 30 years! (really, check my other posts, I drummer bash at the drop of a hat!)

I lost respect for drummers when I was 18 and got in a fight with our drummer because he thought a drummer could play a Xylophone better than a pianist because you used mallets.

So, now at 47 I have finally met a drummer whose knuckles don't drag on the ground (I assume)

OK, so as a guitar player, with a new found respect for drummers....

I ask, if a tree falls in a forest, would you get out of the way??

So I says to him, you can't play diatonic when you're tuned to penatonic. Sheesh, what were you thinking??:spank:
 
I write songs with a friend who lives 100+ miles away. We rarely see each other twioce ina year so we collaborate online & through HR.
He sings, plays flute, recorder, sax, piano, writes melodies & lyrics.
I play bass & rudimentary guitar.
I frequently collaborate with an excellent lead guitarist from Edmonton, a great drummer from Montreal, a wizzard keyboard/treated guitarist from Belgium and an insane, great drummer from Texas.
I get results that bely the limitations of my songwriting & leave me aghast at the skills and interpretative talents of the others invloved.
The only downside is waiting. Though it's better on all levels to wait for someone to have the time & inclination to come up with something superb than it is to get an instant, yet below par/underconsidered part from someone who is in the room with you.
I miss playing & jamming with people on a 1:1 basis BUT I enjoy writing, recording & collaborating. I don't have an internet band beyond my songwriting partner & I but we do go by a band name.
Oh, I also began writing & collaborating with another friend after a 30 year gap. He's near Shreveport and I'm south of Sydney so the internet is the only way for us to do so - but he's very somputer savvy and well musical so it's a goer for a different type of music entirely.
2 streams of pleasure - otherwise I'd be watching television!!!!!!
Oh, I live in a village, not a small town, I'm fairly serious but not good & my internet connection is REALLY bad but I still get by.
 
More a duo than a band, but I collab with a guy in Germany by sending wav files back and forth using yousendit.com. pretty cool.
 
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