Interesting article (a bit about the TASCAM 388 too!)

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I just found this and thought you might enjoy the read, especially the notes about the 388 and also Analog in general. Nothing extraordinary, just interesting I think. It's from Electronic Musician:

Tape Head

It's always tempting to get scientific about reproducing the sound of old records you love. Replicate the instruments, mic placement, and signal path from a timeless recording, and maybe you have a shot at rebirthing a classic sound.

Or so the thinking goes. Yet time and time again, the producers and artists who made those records reveal how very unscientific their own methods were. They set up their noisy mics in poorly insulated rooms with imperfect analog gear and made some of the greatest recordings ever.

In his San Francisco apartment one floor above a Laundromat, Kelley Stoltz is successfully tying into the vibe of some classic rock 'n' roll records. His modest personal studio contains a handful of stock instruments, bad carpeting, and a Tascam 388, the ¼-inch reel-to-reel introduced back in 1985. “The 388 works great, it's pretty reliable, and it's easy to use,” says Stoltz. “It's not so lo-fi that it sounds like I recorded on a boombox, and not so hi-fi that it sounds slick. It's a mid-fi sound — right in the middle.”

A songwriter and multi-instrumentalist, Stoltz values the 388 for its middle-ground fidelity and because it's so well suited to the way he works. He explains, “I just enjoy the ritual of the tape machine: cleaning the heads, waiting for the tape to rewind. A lot of the music I love — the Beatles, Pink Floyd — they were using 2-inch rather than ¼-inch, but they still had to wait for tape to rewind. It just feels more like it used to be. I feel as though I'm partaking in the same process.”

Stoltz is no technophobe; his choice is a conscious and informed one. “I've tried several other setups,” he says, “but when I record into a computer, I generally end up making kind of down-tempo shoe store music. I don't know why.” And who wants “sole” music if you can have Below the Branches (2006), Stoltz's first full-length release for the Sub Pop label? Kaleidoscopic arrangements, ageless hooks, and wry turns of phrase are the songwriter's own even when his influences are in stark relief, and he makes no argument that he's taken cues as a musician and as a producer from heroes such as the Beach Boys, Ray Davies, and Nick Drake.

Like the songs, the instruments on the album aren't overly precious. Stoltz says that the CD is heavy on piano because there happened to be one in his new apartment. The guitars he used include a Fender Telecaster, a hollow-body Gretsch, and a Vox knockoff of a Gibson ES-335, which Stoltz describes as a “plinkophonic tone sucker.”

He runs his guitars and basses through a Fender Princeton Reverb amp, which he also uses to cut vocals with reverb. Two of his favorite oddball instruments are a Stylophone similar to the one David Bowie used on “Space Oddity” and an Optigan (see www.optigan.com). Everything — everything — gets miked up with Shure SM57s plugged directly into the 388's built-in mixer.

Getting the songs out of his head and onto tape quickly is key to Stoltz's process, and it's another reason he likes working with the analog 8-track. Anyone who has written with sophisticated music software knows how easy it is to get distracted by a program's features. “You start out saying, ‘Maybe this would sound good with a little vibrato,’” Stoltz says, “and then you end up spending hours figuring out the right oscillation on a vibrato plug-in.”

Stoltz concludes, “For me, when I'm chasing a song idea that's in my mind, it's best to get it done as quickly as possible because it doesn't stay there forever.”​

Source: http://emusician.com/mag/emusic_tape_head/index.html
 
Interesting stuff, especially considering EM is a product oriented mag -- new products, that is. I can’t remember the last time they mentioned tape in a positive light. It’s refreshing. :)

Off topic, but I'm celebrating post number 1776. Apologies to my friends in Canada and the UK for my ancestors, Paul and Thomas Beck, kicking ass and taking names while serving in the Virginia Militia. It’s nice that we’re all friends again. :D
 

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Getting the songs out of his head and onto tape quickly is key to Stoltz's process, and it's another reason he likes working with the analog 8-track. Anyone who has written with sophisticated music software knows how easy it is to get distracted by a program's features.
That's definitely one of the bi-products of multi-track analog. It does force you, to a degree, to get your part down or go back to the drawing board and come up with something else that you can perform as a musician.

Sometimes, giving an artist too many paints and too many brushes gets in the way of the creative process.

Case in point;

When my friend Doug and I started recording in a fairly serious way about 20 years ago, we had a keyboard with a handful of possible sounds that we could get out of it. We concentrated a lot more on coming up with a decent part then on fiddling around with all of the different sounds as there wasn't much there to begin with...a basic piano, organ and a handful of other sounds that didn't sound anything like their pre-set names.

Now we're using a newer keyboard work-station with over 700 instrument voices and well over half of those are very usable and very realistic sounding. The problem with that is that we spend more time looking for just the right sound out of that unit and less time trying to create a decent composition of the part.

Cheers! :)
 
That dude sounds like me!

................ :eek: ;)
Tape Head said:
Everything — everything — gets miked up with Shure SM57s plugged directly into the 388's built-in mixer.
 
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I can relate to the fast working process. And the 57 IS a great mike. I think it can sound good on just about everything.
 
The Ghost of FM said:
Sometimes, giving an artist too many paints and too many brushes gets in the way of the creative process.

That's the truth right there, Jeff, and the main reason why I refuse to complicate my recording process. Too many distractions (options, bells & whistles) are not good, at least from what I've found. ;)
 
Beck said:
Interesting stuff, especially considering EM is a product oriented mag -- new products, that is. I can’t remember the last time they mentioned tape in a positive light. It’s refreshing. :)

Yeah, that's what I found so out of place and most noteworthy! :D
 
SteveMac said:
And the 57 IS a great mike. I think it can sound good on just about everything.

I recall, some years back when I joined this forum, asking A Reel Person (Dave) whether he mic'd his instruments with condensers, after listenning to some of his tracks. He obviously didn't and just used the 57's. I couldn't believe the sound was coming from a dynamic and the careful use of the EQ. :)
 
cjacek said:
I recall, some years back when I joined this forum, asking A Reel Person (Dave) whether he mic'd his instruments with condensers, after listenning to some of his tracks. He obviously didn't and just used the 57's. I couldn't believe the sound was coming from a dynamic and the careful use of the EQ. :)

Agree. It is easy for a guy to think he's a great recording engineer (or try and impress others to that effect) because he has a couple of $3000 Neumanns on show and looking pretty. Sure condensers have better transient response, when that's an issue, but they can also overload easier than a dynamic. Their strengths only shine in certain situations.

Improving the weakest link in the chain always helps. Further improving a strong link, such as a mic which is in not the weak link, does nothing except burn a hole in the pocket.

I've used SM81's but only because the guy who came before me had lashed out on them and they were there for me to use. They are excellent mics. But in the application, a good dynamic would have been just as good.

It's funny these days to look at those ultra small condenser mics on little goosenecks or solid arms, often on lecturns or TV conference situations. They are usually fitted with a tiny little foam pop filter and all it needs is for someone to say the letter "p" from about a foot or less away from it and its sounds like a clap of thunder. A $1 larger pop filter would have solved it.

All that amazing low profile technology for the luxury of sending the recorder into clipping, or tripping out the circuit breakers in the sound system, or giving the oldies in the auditorium a heart attack.

Tim
 
Amazon link

Above is a link to samples off Mr. Stoltz Album. I agree with the spirit of how he works, but from the samples feel perhaps he should take a little more time as IMO it doesn't really sound all that good from a recording angle. It has an old school flavor, but the 388 is capable of better recordings. The guys got my respect though, he's making music.
 
I see what you're saying,I think he could have gotten a better recording, though I 'd take that over an sterile overworked recording. That's why it's good to have sound set ups written down beforehand, so you can bang out the ideas without getting bogged down with the technical stuff. That's what I try to do anyway. It's hard doing everything alone.

He sounds like he was heavily influenced by the later year Beach Boys.
 
EDAN said:
Amazon link

Above is a link to samples off Mr. Stoltz Album. I agree with the spirit of how he works, but from the samples feel perhaps he should take a little more time as IMO it doesn't really sound all that good from a recording angle. It has an old school flavor, but the 388 is capable of better recordings. The guys got my respect though, he's making music.

The clips on Amazon are all streamed at 20 k bits / sec, an extremely low quality compression. There is no way to tell the true quality by way of that alone, at least from a purely sonic stand-point.
 
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I got a kick out of one of the reviewers who commented on how the instrument playing was "unrefined" and that the singer had trouble "hitting the notes", that the vocals were "wobbly". The funny thing is that the majority of today's so called "pop artists", from the major players, if left unassisted by todays pitch correction and editing software, would sound more like this guy! :eek: :D
 
SteveMac said:
I can relate to the fast working process. And the 57 IS a great mike. I think it can sound good on just about everything.

I like working fast, too. Back when I had a 388, I was impressed with how quickly I could get things done on that machine. Actually, I find recording into my DAW is faster, but using the 4-track absolutely forces me to have my sh_t together.

As far as the SM57, it is a great lectern mike and has its uses, and I still have four of them. However, to my ears it's pretty far from a natural and accurate sound. I use EV RE-55s much more as they give an accurate sound (they're the most accurate dynamic omni but have been discontinued since at least 2000). Soon, I'll be trying out the Shure SM-80s, which are another accurate, but discontinued, omni mike. For me, working fast generally involves using accurate mikes to capture the sound in the room. Of course, YMMV.

Otto
 
that dudes music

Man i just have to say that guy who gave that bad review to the home recording guys music is fucking bullshit. OK ill admit the guy doesnt have the greatest voice in the world, but the vocal melodies themselves are pretty well crafted in the way that the accents are never really too similar for long, and when new vocal melodic phrases emerge they are contrasting in effect rather than just a static change. That guy also commented on how you wouldnt like it if you liked good riffs or something to that effect. Riffs? RIFFS? Fuck riffs man. There are a few melodic devices in that guys songs that 90 percent of modern songwriters dont even know exist let alone use. There are a couple of hooks in the melody/harmony movement that Ray Davies would have written in his prime. Not all the music this guy wrote is genius, but there are enough obvious uses of real musical invention going on here and there in that home recordist guys tunes to make them interesting at least. More than i EVER hear on modern radio and especially more than the world of homerecording. Im sorry if that hurts but most home recorded music sucks ass because everyone just obsesses about the equipment itself and not about songwriting as an art. Id rather see a few more people try songwriting as an alternative to better recorders/microphones.

Fuck that reviewer.

And fuck "riffs". "riffs" are what you write when thats all you can write. Dont believe me? Just take a look around at all the shit musicians there are these days. Riffers are a dime dozen
 
Fantastic stuff. So inspiring for us home recordists, let alone 388 owners.

And FYI..

October 12 2010 new album "To Dreamers"

kelley-stoltz-to-dreamers.jpg

..and yes, I totally work for Kelley Stoltz;)
 
Okay, Shed...So on Kelley's myspace page...the songs in the myspace player...are they all songs tracked on the 388???

Kind of reminds me of some of this guy's stuff...NOT recorded on a 388, though I did BUY a 388 from him...and he had a nice 246 at his place...and he DID buy my M-520 and I saw it hooked up to his 2" Studer when I went to get the 388...
 
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