I'm Depressed And Want To Quit

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First I was very pissed and then I got bummed. Don't know if this is exactly the right forum but.... I did a search on Google for my studio. I was looking for photos of my place when I rented space in the city. Maybe new photos I did not have. To my shock I came up with web site from my town. It was a forum like this one, a BBS. The title in the search was that my studio "sucks cox" . It was a post a guy did saying that when his band was in my studio, 3 years ago, I lost a bass track and charged him to re track it! Also that I charged them for doing nothing at the begining of the session. ( I never had free setup time, I felt I was too cheap for that). Now, I was and still am the king of free fucking time. I have re tracked and entire days worth of work a few times because I felt it wasnt right. What this guy is talking about I'm still trying to figure out. :confused: I dont even remember them. Honestly, I have had a sick feeling in my stomach for the past 2 days about this. I do not like people pissed at me and even more do not like shit being said about me. Have any of you guys ran across people you could just NOT please? Then he said he tried to call me but I never answered my phone :confused:
This is really bothering me. Presently I pretty much only do live bands. It just got too much having a full time day job, 50 hours a weeks then 5/6 night downtown at the studio plus weekends. I mean $25.00 bucks an hours is what I charged then and still what I charge now. This is the kind of crap that makes me want to just say the hell with it . Even now I only charge $600.00 for a 4 hour gig with up to 14 songs mixed. And that includes everything, done deal. My god! Maybe I just sell everything and go buy a big boat! :mad:
 
Welcome to the real world of doing business! Do not confuse it with the altruistic world in your mind! ;)
 
Yeah, when you own a business you're an easy target. A guy like the one complaining about the setup time/bass track would probably be exposed as an unreasonable jerk if you were to respond in the forum in a very "un-offended" objective professional way and comment on his complaints in relation to your studo policies, how they're communicated, standard pro recording procedures, phone message procedures, etc.

If you've been in business for years and only had one guy rag on you, you have hundreds or thousands of clients who outweigh that. That gives your response a lot of weight.

I believe that any publicity can be good publicity if you handle it right.
 
ahh don't give in to the bullshit. You can't make everyone happy. Everyone has bad days and dealing with them is part of the gig.




Just turn a cheek and keep on truckin man :)
 
As a wise man once told me -

"Mixing would be a hell of a lot more fun if it weren't for the fucking musicians! And drummers are worse!"

Don't sweat it man.......
 
NTK88 said:
Quitting because of what some one said on a message board? :confused:
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Well, I guess the problem is, I feel I do good work and am very , very reasonable in price. Maybe not GREAT work, but at the very least worth what people pay. I try to always make people happy ( as long as they are not jerks). I'll bend over backwards. Like I said, I've tracked a lot of stuff over for free only because I was not happy. The BBS comment made me mad and very sad. I suppose in the back of my mind I have this feeling that someone I deal with in the future my have read that post and THAT I'll have to deal with. I know you cant please everyone. Maybe I 'm just thinking that I do suck, doubting my own work. Here is the quote from the post!

"Obviously this is based on my experience. Maybe others have had a positive one.

First off, the guy charged us for an hour of time from which we saw no tangible evidence that anything was done. He gave us the whole... "yeah I got here early and got a jump on things". We have no idea what the fuck he did.

Secondly, he erased the bass track from one of our songs. We didnt realize it until we listened to the cd later. We called him and asked him to take care of it, and he said he would have to charge us additional time to fix the problem. In my mind, he fucked it up... he should fix it.

Now we cant even get him to return our calls. He can smoke my wang for all I care. We will go somewhere quality the next time. Live and learn I guess.

F Jolex"

I would feel a lot better if I knew what the hell he was even talking about! I'm not saying I have NEVER made a mistake in the studio, but I sure as hell NEVER charged someone for MY mistakes!!
 
What did you do in the 1 hour?

Did you lose the bass track?

Did you return their calls?

If you did nothing, lost the track and wont return their calls then you should probably quit.
 
jmorris said:
Live and learn I guess.

F Jolex"
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there's a saying a producer I once worked for used to say all the time,


"When god casted satan into hell for all eternity, satan took 7 of god's 10 musical angels with him".

So hence, that's why 70 percent of all musicians are hopeless assholes. :)



I think to survive you have to build thick skin. It's a character thing. You establish to your client that you mean bussiness. You're not perfect and if your client can't understand that, then you have the ability to give a blonde vaginal pubic hair worth a shit.

Believe me, I've dealt with the worst kind of assholes. Egocentric, big headed and worst of all, stupid beyond all recongnition. A *stupid* asshole is definitely like a dead elephant in the middle of a busy highway to your bussiness..

I still say there should be a "National Engineer's appreciation" day :D. For all the bullshit we put up with.
 
I get a kick out of the part where he says he has no idea what the fuck you did before the session. :D

I suppose the mics could just set themselves up. Or maybe he prefers to hang out and play with his pecker while you do a bunch of thrilling grunt work that would likely rank somewhere on the excitement scale (for him and his band) between waiting in heavy traffic and getting a root canal. But hey, at least he knows where his money's going.

Yea, dude. You need to give it up man. Just quit.

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NTK88 said:
What did you do in the 1 hour?

Did you lose the bass track?

Did you return their calls?

If you did nothing, lost the track and wont return their calls then you should probably quit.
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No to all. First, remembering 3 years ago 1 session is a bit hard. I looked at these guys web site and they dont even look familiar. The 1 hour? No clue what that is about. Unless they wanted material backed up? I would charge for that and they would not have been present. Lost bass track? How could I have lost a bass track on a song and they only noticed it when they got home on their CD? I in those days always tracked to the HD24,not computer. Not like miss placing a wave file. And how is it you only notice a bass track missing at home. not in studio when we are doing a ruff mix ( with band present) for CD to take home? I always retured calls!
 
Get over what some might say about your studio. Ive been running mine for a year now, and I learn you can't make everyone happy. Someone will always bitch about something. I only charge $25 per song ( Im a poor college student) and still get some bands bitching about a $25 song.

It sucks when bands rag about your studio but you learn to ignore it.


peace
 
Responses I'd like to see, heh...

"First off, the guy charged us for an hour of time from which we saw no tangible evidence that anything was done."

Dude, your band was an hour late.

"Secondly, he erased the bass track from one of our songs. We didnt realize it until we listened to the cd later."

Unuseable track due to sloppy technique. Only so much that the miracles of recording technology can fix, man. Band declined to retrack. Band representative authorized final song mix.
 
The "1 hour and did'nt know what the fuck he did comment" maybe was setup time I don't know. I have had people in the past moan about no free setup time. I charge from time booked so I tell bands to be on time.
 
Like everyone said...welcome to the world of......everything.

But, can you get in touch with this guy, or at least defend yourself on the BBS???
 
first off ...... to be so upset that you're wanting to quit is a sign that you may have trouble doing buisiness with the public 'cause from time to time there will be someone you can't please ..... often because they're a prick!

Secondly ..... if you don't even remember them, there's a decent chance that they've got the wrong place. I remember one time at Baker Music I had some lady call up and just ream me 'cause "I'd overcharged her daughter and on top of that did work that didn't even need doing and then did a crappy job". The bitch just went on and on and I kept saying, "Ma'm .... I don't even remember doing any of that kind of work and I do all the guitar work. Are you sure you've got the right store?"
"Yes sir", she screamed .... "LeDouxs' Music!" :eek:
"Ma'm ..... this is Baker music" .....
she just hung up .... never apologized or anything.
Point being ..... you can't be overly sensitive if you're gonna work for the public. You will absolutely get pricks from time to time ..... gonna happen .... part of the buisiness ...... who cares ...... fuck 'em .... etc. etc.
 
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