capnkid
Optimus Prime
does anyone trade here? I have a 50th anniversary Tex-mex strat sonic blue with American Strat P-up's in it. I would trade for a guitar with a floyd.
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brandrum
Jesus Loves me.
why?...having the urge to do some dive bombs?
capnkid
Optimus Prime
brandrum said:
...........Yep.
Purge
Traitorous Usurper
Hmmm...might have something for ya...interested in Ibanez at all?
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faderbug
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at some point in the future you'll be very sorry about this.
keep the strat and buy a $300 ibanez.
keep the strat and buy a $300 ibanez.
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brandrum
Jesus Loves me.
I agree...even with the locking nuts it will never stay in tune as well as a fixed bridge guitar, say goodbye to drop or alternate tunings and changing strings is a pain in the ass.faderbug said:
Purge
Traitorous Usurper
Oddly enough, I would definitely agree with this. If nothing else, your guitar is worth a hell of a lot more than mine. 
Besides...I just got home and took a look at my guitar. It ain't a real Floyd -- just one of those "licensed by Floyd" jobs. It's an Ibanez Edge style trem where the allen screws are on top of the fine tuners instead of below them.
Besides...I just got home and took a look at my guitar. It ain't a real Floyd -- just one of those "licensed by Floyd" jobs. It's an Ibanez Edge style trem where the allen screws are on top of the fine tuners instead of below them.
capnkid
Optimus Prime
Purge said:Oddly enough, I would definitely agree with this. If nothing else, your guitar is worth a hell of a lot more than mine.
Besides...I just got home and took a look at my guitar. It ain't a real Floyd -- just one of those "licensed by Floyd" jobs. It's an Ibanez Edge style trem where the allen screws are on top of the fine tuners instead of below them.
Bring the whammy bar to the body a couple times and see if it stays in tune.
do you have a pic?
Purge
Traitorous Usurper
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On to the info. First off, I need to buy a new whammy bar for it, since I bought the guitar used and it didn't come with the bar. (don't worry...this isn't like the thread in the sale forum where "I need to get a new hard drive for your computer and then I'll ship it" bullshit. If for some strange reason that this deal works out, I will definitely buy a bar IMMEDIATELY.
)I grabbed a bar from one of my other guitars to test out the tuning, and I would say it did only fairly okay. It didn't stay perfect and I noticed that the G seemed to knock more than the other strings, but those other strings stayed pretty damn close. That was after a few very abusive dives and pulls.
Lately, I've had this guitar tuned down a half a step with .010 gauge strings. (I hate tuning down like this, but I did it because there were a bunch of songs that I wanted to play along to.) Right now, the action is a little too low on the higher frets. When tuned normally, the action is perfect with no strange buzzes, and the neck just flies. That's what Ibanez always did best IMO.
Let's see...24 frets, rounded neck joint, stock pickups, quilted top (but most likely layered over plywood...), you get the idea: shredder guitar.
If you want to do a little more research, the model number for this guitar is RG 320 QS. Not a top of the line Ibanez by any stretch, and I still agree with the other guys that you'll want to keep that Strat. You can buy these Ibanez models pretty cheap. (Believe me, though...I'd love to have your guitar. )
)I grabbed a bar from one of my other guitars to test out the tuning, and I would say it did only fairly okay. It didn't stay perfect and I noticed that the G seemed to knock more than the other strings, but those other strings stayed pretty damn close. That was after a few very abusive dives and pulls.Lately, I've had this guitar tuned down a half a step with .010 gauge strings. (I hate tuning down like this, but I did it because there were a bunch of songs that I wanted to play along to.) Right now, the action is a little too low on the higher frets. When tuned normally, the action is perfect with no strange buzzes, and the neck just flies. That's what Ibanez always did best IMO.
Let's see...24 frets, rounded neck joint, stock pickups, quilted top (but most likely layered over plywood...), you get the idea: shredder guitar.
If you want to do a little more research, the model number for this guitar is RG 320 QS. Not a top of the line Ibanez by any stretch, and I still agree with the other guys that you'll want to keep that Strat. You can buy these Ibanez models pretty cheap. (Believe me, though...I'd love to have your guitar.
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Sirnothingness
Banned
I had real good luck with my old Ibanez 540 Saber. They take awhile to get in tune, but man it stayed in tune. I once played a gig and didn't touch it for a week and it was spot on. I wish I had that guitar back.
metalhead28
Hates Raymond
brandrum said:
That has never been my experience. I've had several guitars with Floyds and they have always stayed in tune better than anything else. My USA Jackson has an original Floyd on it and after the first few hours of playing and a few adjustments to the fine tuners it will stay basically perfectly in tune for weeks. And I am a whammy bar madman! Floyd knock-offs might be a little less reliable, but they're still pretty awesome. There may be plenty of reasons for people to dislike Floyd Rose bridges, but tuning stability shouldn't be one of them. In fact, I would say tuning stability is one of the nicest benefits.
I find string changes to be a breeze on a Floyd. It's really no harder if you ask me. You feed the string through the tuner first, insert it into the saddle, and then take a couple turns on the locking screw. Sometimes it takes me longer to fish the strings through the ferrules in the back of my fixed bridge guitar..... Changing string gauges or tuning can be a pain, but it's just a few minutes to get the bridge position set up right, it's not a big deal.
Besides, it's all worth it when you can give somebody whammy envy! I do it all the time! It sounds like capnkid has a case of whammy envy and that's where this post came from anyway.
capnkid
Optimus Prime
metalhead28 said:That has never been my experience. I've had several guitars with Floyds and they have always stayed in tune better than anything else. My USA Jackson has an original Floyd on it and after the first few hours of playing and a few adjustments to the fine tuners it will stay basically perfectly in tune for weeks. And I am a whammy bar madman! Floyd knock-offs might be a little less reliable, but they're still pretty awesome. There may be plenty of reasons for people to dislike Floyd Rose bridges, but tuning stability shouldn't be one of them. In fact, I would say tuning stability is one of the nicest benefits.
I find string changes to be a breeze on a Floyd. It's really no harder if you ask me. You feed the string through the tuner first, insert it into the saddle, and then take a couple turns on the locking screw. Sometimes it takes me longer to fish the strings through the ferrules in the back of my fixed bridge guitar..... Changing string gauges or tuning can be a pain, but it's just a few minutes to get the bridge position set up right, it's not a big deal.
Besides, it's all worth it when you can give somebody whammy envy! I do it all the time! It sounds like capnkid has a case of whammy envy and that's where this post came from anyway.
It's the same type of floyd that I had on an old plywood kramer. and it would never stay in-tune. bummer
metalhead28
Hates Raymond
capnkid said:
I wonder if the plywood had anything to do with it?
jimistone
long standing member
You could do what I do.....
Bend the stock trem arm on the strat so it will do the dive, have all 5 trem springs on, loosen the 6 tremplate bolts enough to allow a dive...and dive bomb that sucker.
If you adjust the trem to float about half way (just as much upward movement as downward movement) ...you can pull a note sharp after you dive bomb and it will stay close on the tuning. It's not going to stay perfectly in tune when you start dive bombing, no matter what you do.
When I was playing rock I used to use 2 strats. I did some hendrix numbers that required whammy work. I would play one of those tunes towrd the end of a set and alot of times I would still be pretty close on tuning....If I wasn't, I grabbed the other strat.
Bend the stock trem arm on the strat so it will do the dive, have all 5 trem springs on, loosen the 6 tremplate bolts enough to allow a dive...and dive bomb that sucker.
If you adjust the trem to float about half way (just as much upward movement as downward movement) ...you can pull a note sharp after you dive bomb and it will stay close on the tuning. It's not going to stay perfectly in tune when you start dive bombing, no matter what you do.
When I was playing rock I used to use 2 strats. I did some hendrix numbers that required whammy work. I would play one of those tunes towrd the end of a set and alot of times I would still be pretty close on tuning....If I wasn't, I grabbed the other strat.
cephus
Slow Children Playing
I think the bummer with the floyd guitars is that they have no ass. The tone is weak compared to a strat trem or hard tail. If you play music where you get your tone from the amp and effects, then you probably won't care. But if you get the majority of your tone from your hands and the guitar, a floyd is kind of a letdown (no pun intended).
That said, I had a floyd-equipped Kramer that I played for years. It was a very dependable guitar as far as tuning. Breaking a string was a bitch, but it had it's advantages. I always broke them at the bridge, and I'd loosen up the lock nut, unwind the peg a few times, then reclamp the broken end back in the bridge. Then you don't have to worry much about the new-string stretch and the tension change.
That said, I had a floyd-equipped Kramer that I played for years. It was a very dependable guitar as far as tuning. Breaking a string was a bitch, but it had it's advantages. I always broke them at the bridge, and I'd loosen up the lock nut, unwind the peg a few times, then reclamp the broken end back in the bridge. Then you don't have to worry much about the new-string stretch and the tension change.
noisedude
New member
If you need a Floyd, nothing else will do. I find them such a pain (mostly cos I sell them to kids who don't know how to use them) that I have taken to deliberately setting up my own strat trems wrong ... loosening the screws and springs so the trem floats up a little so you have a bit of pull-up. A bit of Nut Sauce on the nut to keep it from going out of tune and you have a whole new world of trem-age.
