I want a nice DAW for 2 grand

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I've been recording with a Yamaha aw16g standalone machine for a long time now, and the results are never bad, but I would love to have the best quality with computer mixing to make things way better and easier.

With a budget of 2 grand, can I get a desktop with professional quality preamps supporting phantom powered XLR inputs? Surround mixing would also be sweet if possible. I know all the basics of cool edit pro and I'd like to be able to record my instruments directly into cool edit pro and mix them like that with the highest possible quality. I record most instruments with 1-2 condenser mics.

Any suggestions?
 
Think about this possibility - The best dedicated DAW in the business is the AKAI DPS24 - by a long shot. Because the DPS24MkII has just been released @ about $2700, used DPS24s are becoming available for $2K or less. I believe this thing uses the same preamps as the ProTools HD systems and allows both in the box and external processing. Worth a look.
 
Well a "pro" preamp (meaning top shelf) will be more than $2000 but you can find an interface which will meet or exceed the quality of your yamaha AND a very nice computer to run it on for less than 2k for sure. A 17" Imac will set you back $1200 and leave $800 for monitors and an interface
 
Why not get a decent computer, and get a digi 002 rack. Then you can do your surround sound mixing too (if you already had the speakers). Then you'll also be able to transfer sessions from other studios to your home... Or if you really want to use Cool Edit Pro... well I didn't think you could do surround in cool edit lol. Also, with only $2k, highest possible quality will be a far shot. Maybe a cheaper firepod will do better for you
 
I like mindset's idea, except I'd suggest the new Digi 003R rack unit instead of the older 002. That would probably squeeze the computer budget a bit, but the new 003R is suppopsedly a bit better than the 002 series.
 
One thing that gets slightly overlooked when looking at new DAWs...that's the visual monitor(s). It's not so applicable anymore, but make sure you get the flat panel instead of the crt...the crt monitors can cause a lot of audio interference from the emf.
 
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Ebay a couple of dual core opterons (275 and up)

Ebay any of the 8 in + soundcard mic pres on the market, FF800, Firepod, whatever

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The question you have posed has more to do with what preamps you wish than what DAW you can afford. Budget your preamps first, compromise on your DAW... you can always upgrade it.

Whenever people hereabouts get into discussions regarding mics and preamps there are always those who are willing to trash the recommendations made by others. Thus someone will praise the pres on the Digi 002 while others will (and have) panned them as... at best... mediocre.

In all things YMMV.

Given your statement that you need at least two channels and have a (regrettably) modest budget I would suggest you start with a FMR RNP (Real Nice Preamp). With two channels it only costs (roughly) $475, enjoys lots of advocates, and has precious few detractors. This is the marketing blurb from mercenary.com, widely regarded as being pretty darn honest about their offerings.
Somewhere around 1997 this guy named Mark McQuilken started showing up on the Usenet group rec.audio.pro . He kept talking about this little compressor of his that was under $200 and sounded great. Remember, this was 1997, when there was even less "affordable" gear on the market that was close to useable than there is today (and there ain't bloody much of it available now either). So, being the loud mouthed jerk he is... Fletcher asked Mark to send him one of these "really nice compressors" up to the shop so we could give it a whirl.

Fully expecting it to be complete shit, we plugged it in on a 2 buss application. It didn't suck. We tried it on a vocal, it didn't suck. We tried it on some guitars... it didn't suck!! In fact, there was damn little we could do to get it to suck [it can be done, but you'll have to find out on your own how to do it].

The compressor not only worked well as a compression device, but it could also be used effectively as an envelop shaping effect device. This led to a myriad of potential uses, which led to the RNC becoming a favorite amongst the staff. It's funny, we have all kinds of high class, high faluten, big ticket compressors around the shop... but very often, the RNC is indeed the compressor of choice.

In 1999 Mercenary became a dealer for the FMR line [funny thing was, we didn't know they had dealers or we'd have been one earlier]. We were using the thing for a solid year or two before we knew we could pimp it... which is a rarity around these parts.

In the fall of 2002 FMR added the RNP [Really Nice Preamp] to their roster. The 2 channel unit features stepped attenuation on the input [like a GML or Great River ], output mute, a polarity reverse switch, and perhaps the coolest feature; an insert point. Because the RNP can work as a "O gain" amplifier it can be used as a 'balance box' for the RNC [should you decide you'd like to use your RNC as a balanced unit]. It also allows for the easy addition of an equalizer or compressor [or both] to the signal path.

Overall, there are very few bargains in professional audio that compare to the innovative products from FMR, and Mercenary Audio is proud to represent this line of cost effective solutions.
If you choose to go with this pre (and no question you could do worse) then you would have approx. $1.5K for you DAW.

Now, I'll be blunt, $1.5K will carry you a hell of long way when building a DAW. The best advice I can give you here is don't buy a hot processor because processor prices always drop like a rock over the course of a year. The way you go about this is to pick a mobo that will support the processor you want, but use another processor that is relatively affordable until the prices drop, whereupon your (formerly) hot processor will be attainable and your computer easily upgradable.

The next tip is to look at mobos that have integrated video. These are usually (not always) MicroATX boards and are often cheaper than the video adapters that are integrated into them are when sold as stand alone display adapters! Most integrated video adapter mobos support two monitors.

Next, DON'T SKIMP ON YOUR KEYBOARD AND MOUSE. Next to your monitor there is NOTHING that is going to make your experience more pleasureable than your keyboard and mouse.

Hope this helps, hang in there. :)
 
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