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I think this comes more from the bands themselves then the sound engineer and times. I understand and have questioned the same things and have come to realize, people want more than real. And im not really talking about people who buy the CD are the ones who want that sound, but the bands that come in to record there CD. When a drummer or any kind of musician finishes playing and listens to what they have just recorded, they often never like the sound of themselves playing. why this is, i have no clue, but its like that with probably everyone. So they think it sounds like crap, but the other players and the sound engineer says it sound just fine and it sounds just like what he played, but the player usually wants more out of the sound. So what he has the engineer do is load it with processing effects like reverb, compression, and any other processing effects he might have until the sound is nothin like the sound he played. i see this more with singers and players that are behind the sound because they dont really hear exactly what they are playing. also its like the human mind automatically hates what it creates. ive had alot of my own experiences in this way, i play trombone, and when i record myself and listen to the recording, i hate it. And youll also notice with guitar players or almost any other instrumentalists besides Vocalists, think they need to be louder, because they cant hear themselves, just because its themselves expecting mroe or something (if only someone could explain this). but i see it all the time.

Since this happens, those recordings that were recorded by so called professionals sets the standard for recording whether its good or bad. When bands come in to record, they want to sound like a favorite band that they have a CD of or something, and it just so happens that the drums do have a overproduced fake sound on that CD. but thats what they want so thats what yah gotta give them if they are paying you. So basically, that sound has just about become the industry standard. Adding to that, after you get the exact same sound as on that favorite band CD, they want to tweak it more to make it sound different because of the reasons i said in the first paragraph. So it just keeps goin and goin.

The solution ive come up with on my recordings, is come up with a special unique sound that you have on each instrument. The band might say " i want it to sound like the beetles drums" for example, so instead say, how bout you try this way and try to have an original sound to your band. This so called unique or original sound is not that hard to get, infact it just kinda comes natural to most studios (have you ever noticed how every recording done in one studio sounds basically the same and has the same unique sounds?) This originallity if your studio will help the quality of your recording alot. because when the CD is released after, the people might end up liking that new sound that is yours and not like anyother studios sound. Which will help your business greatly. But then of course, if your getting paid, you gotta do what your client wants, so this overproduced sound will continue for centuries.

Well i dunno if anyone here agrees with everything i just said, but im just giving my thoughts on the subject. Feel welcome to add anything. Hope i even made sense :D.

Later,
Darnold
 
whoops

that was supposed to go under "bad drum sounds" :). sorry
 
That's a pretty good point.. it seems to me the root of the problem is that many musicians don't realize what they really sound like simply because they never spend time listening to their sound played back on a tape recorder.. Everyone is amazed at how different their voice actually sounds in comparison to what they thought they sound like.. but over a period of time of listening the awkwardness seems to go away and you are left with a much more objective idea of what you sound like... plus I think that over a longer period of listening to yourself played back you can unconsciously adjust your playing or singing to adapt to a happier medium...

When I record my vocals I know there will be some difference in perception and it gives me a huge dosage of reality.. Plus hearing it played back tells me what not to do in the future.. and improvement is never a bad thing...

... this is probably a given for those of us that record at home anyway.. so please excuse my redundancy..

Cy
 
Maybe if people knew what they really sounded like, we would have a thousand records put out every year instead of a million.

:rolleyes:

Youre on the money darnold. The reason you get the same "unique"sound on a given studios releases is bec most engineers like musicians have a small bag of tricks that they keep going back to...usually stuff that tries in some way to imitate some sound they were into when they were 15.
 
I think that drummers don't sound like themselves when played back cos playback is too low. Crank up the speakers to 115 decibels and watch for the grin on the drummer's face
 
heh...I find myself liking my basslines and wanting to be able to play everyone else's instruments!!
 
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