i,o 16 in out ???

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I want to know if there is any type of universal breakout box which can be used with just about any soundcard which will enable more i o options then are currently being offered by any of the leading soundcard manufacturers to date.

Eg you could use two delta 1010,s for 16 i,os but what if i wanted something such as the lynx 2 sound card here are the specs on that card it dont have that many i o options

heres the url for the lynx 2 check it out and maybe someone may have an answer for me

http://www.sharbor.com/products/LYNN5110003.html#spe

i want to link up something which will give me 16 i o options yet will still allow me to hook up to something like the lynx 2 card i hope ive been clear in trying to explain my requirements any constructive assistance greatly valued thank you all in advance.

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Wayne
Melbourne Australia :)
 
how much do i need to spend ?

at this stage i have a 32x8 mixer with good mic pres so in that dept im fine for now im wanting to run from the outs of the desk 16 in to the i o side of the soundcards bb box but no one seems to have a universal box which i can use with cards like the lynx 2 the only other thing i thought was two delta 10 10,s anyway if you have any ideas please let me know im all ears :-) and smiles too sometimes
 
Well, if you need 16+ io you might want to look at cards like the MOTU 24i. It seems pretty solid. You are going to need a pretty decent daw to run that kind of system ya know.
 
I can't imagine that you would really want to track 16 separate tracks simultaneously. Hmmm... I guess I could imagine it, but is that really what you want to do.

If you just want it for convenience sake, get a patchbay instead, and work with a single Delta 1010.
 
having a daw that will cope wont be the problem because if what i have is not enough i can always add on and bring the daw up to spec

Buying gear seems to be a headache with all the options one can look at i looked at motu systems along time ago but was told they work with macs better then pc,s so this is why i looked elsewhere i mean if someone feels they work equally as well im all ears for what you have to say

my drama is i dont want to have to work with something im always pulling apart or trying to find more i,o options out of something that dont have enough to begin with i still want to use my analog 32x8 mixer for mixing purposes rather then using software based mixers etc

what iam finding really annoying is the lack of i,o options being offered with alot of these sound card packages i really dont want to be limited by anything

when i speak of being limited i wont include motu or m audio in this bunch but i guess im just searching out all my options for now
before i go dumping dollars into something that wont have support 12 months into the future

it seems these days your forced to either go all analog or all digital anything in between seems to have become a nightmare for end users i mean i rather be making music then tinkering with equipment o well im still lost for now im sure it will be worked out as all is after alot of trail and many errors
 
You could get an audio card like the RME 9652 which has up to 24 track digital I/O. Then you could get some stand alone AD/DA converters. The RME card uses DSP for tracking, etc. so you don't even need that great of a DAW to run 24 tracks simultaneously.

I don't really see the problem with hooking up multiple 1010's though - except the drag on the host CPU.

The RME multiface is pretty cool too. Haven't heard much about it around these parts, but it has a lot of I/O options and you can link multiple units together too.

RME
 
Gidge

Adat is something i looked at but seriously putting dollars into a set up like that now dont seem so practical i know at a minimum i need to record 16 tracks without any fuss whatsoever

And yes adat will do that with two units

i could also mix with my mixer and dump down to two tracks either cd or cassette, dat etc

Thats all nice an simple

Adats i feel are ok to own maybe one unit and to pay any more then 400 usd for one these days would be money wasted essp knowing how much service is required to keep the little beasts healthy

Adat is kind of like a last option for me and if i have to buy one its going to be a dam good one at a give away price before i spill my bills out on one of those units

A 16 track r to r is more what id want something like a tascam ms 16 or an msr16 the latter more for it being more portable

What i wanted to do was have a unit like the above fully serviced and then use it to record dry tracks after this mix the tracks and then route the tracks off for mixdown via multiple 2 track sources

So what do i need a daw for then ?

Id also like to be able to store these 16 tracks on hard disk as well so id have to pipe them back in from a unit like an msr16 then if i wanted to i could have 16 tracks on r to r i could also have 16 tracks on the hard disk and also have various ways of mixdown to two tracks wow i hope i have not lost anyone here im not sure if the way i explain it sits ok again im still learning so please excuse my lack of knowing it all thanks again everyone for your feedback :-)))))))
 
The RME multiface is pretty cool too. Haven't heard much about it around these parts, but it has a lot of I/O options and you can link multiple units together too.
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Thank you gnarled i had agood look at the multiface very nice indeed maybe hooking two units like this together may be just what ive been looking for now just to know for sure if this will be what i need then to know how cheap i can get it heres the url for the multiface if anyone has some comments on the mutltiface please post im eager to read all thank you all again


Kind regards Wayne
Melbourne Australia
 
recording at least 16 tracks at a time and then some with a computer based system "with no fuss whatsoever" is not an easy task....
 
I may be not be saying this all that clear its not that i will be recording all in one hit i just want to be able to do this if required and the system which fits in best with my tascam m 3500 32x8 analog mixer will be the set up i,ll go with so far this multiface rme looks great is there any down side with this system and can you run two multifaces of the one soundcard or do you require two sound cards which will then mean two complete seperate units i also like the lynx 2 card the url is posted in this topic in one of my earlier posts its a great card but again the i,o options aint enough thanks again for the great advice keep posting this is assisting me and narrowing my choices id really like to know if anyone knows anything more on the rme multiface or has used one
 
Gidge said:
recording at least 16 tracks at a time and then some with a computer based system "with no fuss whatsoever" is not an easy task....
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Like I said, the RME stuff uses DSP with essentially zero CPU load. So, you have all your PC's processing power for plug-ins, etc.
 
theres more issues to stability than just CPU load/DSP power for effects....that DSP wont help your disk drive write 16+ tracks of 24 bit audio simultaneously while playing back more......anyway, i just offered an opinion for what its worth....
 
Hey Gidge - your right, there is a lot more to building a stable DAW that just the processing power. I don't want to get into a big argument about this, but I would say that any good hard drive should be able to handle this with no problem. My hard disk usage rarely goes over 10% even with 30+ 24 bit tracks. I see CPU usage as the biggest problem with host based DAWs, and the RME stuff essentially eliminates that problem - its really analagous to what digidesign does with pro tools. There probably will be lots of other kinks to work out though......
 
oh dont worry, im a lover, not a fighter....no arguing here...like i said, just different opinions.....and i agree that if set up right with the right motherboard/CPU/hard drive etc., a PC based unit can be just as stable as an ADAT...then you get into portability issues.....shockmount case to the rescue.....anyway, whatever route he goes will work....the most important thing is to get recording and have fun.....
 
the drive i have which will be just for dumping the tracks to and nothing else is a 40g seagate 7200 rpm drive i intend to use a similar drive drive but a 20 g version running 5400 to hold all the sound programs which wont be many only what works which will be my next task to find out what software really works and whats a pain in the butt i figure i dont pay for software to figure out bugs and glitches which should have been worked out by the developers but as usual everyone has their own way of writing stuff so we the consumer always deals with the faulty product
 
p e a c e guys this is fun your all good guys in here so im sitting back and enjoying the fact your all being kind enough to assist me here :-))))))))
 
the beauty of it is you get all these different ideas/opinions and you can use your own needs/judgement to make a decision......

again, ive always said that the killer setup is recording to ADAT's and dumping the tracks to the PC for mixing, which is where the PC shines ........

can someone else jump in here to argue with us:D
 
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