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Well, first off. http://www.myspace.com/strictproductions go here and listen to "ILL" featuring Noddy.

I need to know how much I could get for that beat, in all honesty.

I also need to know the production lingo, I need to be shown the ropes, anyone willing?

If someone says "I can lease you this song for $5.99" what does that mean?

If I want to give someone exclusive rights to a beat, and I send them the beat on a cd in the mail (or something of that sort). How am I assured I'll get the cash?

If I give someone exclusive rights, how do I technically give them the rights, when in actuality someone can just find the beat and use it as their own since I didn't copyright it.

If I copyright it, how do I transfer rights from me to the artist, and if I do, how much does it cost to do so and do I get a 'refund' for the copyright?

I need all the information I can get, if you think of anything else to put in here. Let me know. I'm just starting, :P

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hope this help you...

Well, first off. http://www.myspace.com/strictproductions go here and listen to "ILL" featuring Noddy.
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cant listen to myspace pages at work..sorry

I need to know how much I could get for that beat, in all honesty.
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Its all depends on what you feel the beat is worth what ever you do don’t sell any of your track under $200..IMO.. lets look at some numbers..
New Producer - $1,500 - $15,000 per track
Hot Producer - $25,000 - $75,000 per track
Super Producer - $100,000 + per track
Demo Producer (where most of use are, unless you doin it big and have a track record) - $200 - $$1,000 per track

I also need to know the production lingo, I need to be shown the ropes, anyone willing?
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http://www.futureproducers.com/music_dictionary.php

If someone says "I can lease you this song for $5.99" what does that mean?
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This means you can use the track for a limited amount of time..and it also means you are not the only one that will be using the same track..and it someone decides to purchase the track outright you have to ceist and desist all recordings

If I want to give someone exclusive rights to a beat, and I send them the beat on a cd in the mail (or something of that sort). How am I assured I'll get the cash?
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3 ways:
1) have them pay all the money 1st.
2) Have them pay half the money up front before sending the beat..then send the beat then they send you the rest of the money
3) Or you can do it on good faith, that they will pay your money…
You should have in a agreement somewhere that state that they cannot use the track for and profit until the track is paid for in full..or something like that

If I give someone exclusive rights, how do I technically give them the rights, when in actuality someone can just find the beat and use it as their own since I didn't copyright it.
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In actually your work is copywritten and soon as you lay it down..you copyright it with copyright office to protect you really if do it big..or sending out beat cd to labels..if you sell the track outright the you have giving up your rights to your beat (track)

If I copyright it, how do I transfer rights from me to the artist, and if I do, how much does it cost to do so and do I get a 'refund' for the copyright?
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Never really don’t it but read here http://www.copyright.gov/circs/circ12.pdf and http://www.copyright.gov/circs/circ1.html#toc
And no you will not get your money back..
 
bknot1 said:
hope this help you...



cant listen to myspace pages at work..sorry



Its all depends on what you feel the beat is worth what ever you do don’t sell any of your track under $200..IMO.. lets look at some numbers..
New Producer - $1,500 - $15,000 per track
Hot Producer - $25,000 - $75,000 per track
Super Producer - $100,000 + per track
Demo Producer (where most of use are, unless you doin it big and have a track record) - $200 - $$1,000 per track



http://www.futureproducers.com/music_dictionary.php



This means you can use the track for a limited amount of time..and it also means you are not the only one that will be using the same track..and it someone decides to purchase the track outright you have to ceist and desist all recordings



3 ways:
1) have them pay all the money 1st.
2) Have them pay half the money up front before sending the beat..then send the beat then they send you the rest of the money
3) Or you can do it on good faith, that they will pay your money…
You should have in a agreement somewhere that state that they cannot use the track for and profit until the track is paid for in full..or something like that



In actually your work is copywritten and soon as you lay it down..you copyright it with copyright office to protect you really if do it big..or sending out beat cd to labels..if you sell the track outright the you have giving up your rights to your beat (track)



Never really don’t it but read here http://www.copyright.gov/circs/circ12.pdf and http://www.copyright.gov/circs/circ1.html#toc
And no you will not get your money back..
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Wow, that's alot of information, I will definitely check out those websites and see what I can do. That's helped tremendously, I appreciate that alot DK.

Like I said, I'm just starting, so I really want to get into this. But, how much does it cost to copyright PER beat? $30.00 is what I heard. If that's the case, that's alot of cash to throw up for copyright, if I dont' make it big, ya know?

Also, if I wanted to copyright my 'name' (Re-Lapse) Is that possible? (This is just a couple questions before I read the material...)

Thanks again bruh.

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Also, if I wanted to copyright my 'name' (Re-Lapse) Is that possible? (This is just a couple questions before I read the material...)

Thanks again bruh.

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lol DK..nice typo ...the price for copyrights are $45 ....u cant copyright ur name,,u can trademark it ....will post website in a few
 
bknot1 said:
lol DK..nice typo ...the price for copyrights are $45 ....u cant copyright ur name,,u can trademark it ....will post website in a few
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Sheiit, Sorry bruh, (BK NOT DK!) I'll get it. Ha. Alright, website ish gut. haha, thanks a bunch man.

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bknot1 said:
my bad its http://www.uspto.gov
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Cool thanks man. Much appreciated.

How do people afford to copyright all their material if it's 40 bucks per copyright? That's alot of cash to throw up if you're constantly at work. But then again, if you have an income. It's easier, eh? :)

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if i remember right u can copyright beats as a whole composition meaning as many beats as u can fit on a CD ....... if thats the case can i also do it on DVD's cause i mean 4.4GB of beats is a whole lot?..... that last part was a question lol
 
Fyre said:
if i remember right u can copyright beats as a whole composition meaning as many beats as u can fit on a CD ....... if thats the case can i also do it on DVD's cause i mean 4.4GB of beats is a whole lot?..... that last part was a question lol
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I'd also like to know that, as well.
 
from http://www.copyright.gov (you all should visit it sometimes)

May I register more than one work on the same application? Where do I list the titles?
You may register unpublished works as a collection on one application with one title for the entire collection if certain conditions are met. It is not necessary to list the individual titles in your collection, although you may by completing a Form CON. Published works may only be registered as a collection if they were actually first published as a collection and if other requirements have been met. See Circular 1, Copyright Basics, section “Registration Procedures.”

Can I submit a CD-ROM of my work?
Yes. The deposit requirement consists of the best edition of the CD-ROM package of any work, including the accompanying operating software, instruction manual, and a printed version, if included in the package.


they must be able to access you disk to play your music when you have a dispute about something in the future...

waiting on a email about DVDs..
 
bknot1 said:
from http://www.copyright.gov (you all should visit it sometimes)

May I register more than one work on the same application? Where do I list the titles?
You may register unpublished works as a collection on one application with one title for the entire collection if certain conditions are met. It is not necessary to list the individual titles in your collection, although you may by completing a Form CON. Published works may only be registered as a collection if they were actually first published as a collection and if other requirements have been met. See Circular 1, Copyright Basics, section “Registration Procedures.”

Can I submit a CD-ROM of my work?
Yes. The deposit requirement consists of the best edition of the CD-ROM package of any work, including the accompanying operating software, instruction manual, and a printed version, if included in the package.


they must be able to access you disk to play your music when you have a dispute about something in the future...

waiting on a email about DVDs..
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Wow, ok. That's interesting. So, if I put 15 beats on one cd, and I sent that in for copyright, it'd still cost the 45 bucks for the copyright of the whole thing?

Also, you have to send the software/instruction manual of the software you used???

Thanks a bunch DK ;) (BK)
 
To transfer copyrights, there is a form that can be filled out, but I can't think of where the hell it is off the top of my head. The second party has to pay the fee again to re-register it however.

I think in recent years DVD's have been allowed for a couple years or something like that.
 
Mindset said:
To transfer copyrights, there is a form that can be filled out, but I can't think of where the hell it is off the top of my head. The second party has to pay the fee again to re-register it however.

I think in recent years DVD's have been allowed for a couple years or something like that.
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Do you have any forms for transfer of copyrights?
There are no forms provided by the Copyright Office to effect a copyright transfer. The Office does, however, keep records of transfers if they are submitted to us. If you have executed a transfer and wish to record the document, see Circular 12, Recordations of Transfers and Other Documents, for detailed instructions.

here is the information with form http://www.copyright.gov/circs/circ12.pdf

and here is the form http://www.copyright.gov/forms/formdoc.pdf
 
bknot1 said:
Do you have any forms for transfer of copyrights?
There are no forms provided by the Copyright Office to effect a copyright transfer. The Office does, however, keep records of transfers if they are submitted to us. If you have executed a transfer and wish to record the document, see Circular 12, Recordations of Transfers and Other Documents, for detailed instructions.

here is the information with form http://www.copyright.gov/circs/circ12.pdf

and here is the form http://www.copyright.gov/forms/formdoc.pdf
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Thanks for the information BK, Much appreciated bruh. I got another hit com'in up, Imma have Noddy take a look at my layout, and see if he can spice it up, and hopefully this time I'll learn from it, and end up doing the next song fully on my own.. but for now Noddy is my lifesaver of spice ;). Unless ya'll wanna do a collab.. :D

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what do you use to make you beats..

i use hardware..but im sure i can add somethin here and there..
 
bknot1 said:
Do you have any forms for transfer of copyrights?
There are no forms provided by the Copyright Office to effect a copyright transfer. The Office does, however, keep records of transfers if they are submitted to us. If you have executed a transfer and wish to record the document, see Circular 12, Recordations of Transfers and Other Documents, for detailed instructions.

here is the information with form http://www.copyright.gov/circs/circ12.pdf

and here is the form http://www.copyright.gov/forms/formdoc.pdf
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I think that's what I read lol.

However, I NEVER transfer anything.

Even if a person buys a beat that is for executive rights. That's all it is, they got the executive rights to put their material along with that beat for a certain project, or a certain number of projects. They still can't sell the beat for themselves (if you state it on contract). The beat would still be yours but you wouldn't be able to sell it again, or use it for commercial use.
 
so true..what is written in the contract is what really matters..when it comes down to it..
 
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