I learnt two new tricks and stepped up two notches

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Actually, three new tricks.

The first one is inserting a compressor before the limiter on the master bus.

Man, this is amazing to me. Now I can get more loudness without the distortion I was getting with only a limiter

Second, I read somewhere about rolling off everything under 40 hz. On my speakersm the resulting sound is more polished.

third, build everything around the vocal. on this track, I put the vocal where I wanted it and then started raising instrument volumes to achieve the balance. I also now use a good amount of eq, regardless of mic.

I also put a healthy amount of reverb on the mix. :)

Anyhow, if you want to hear what these changes sound like, its here

 
Not bad, but I can hear the compressor breathing a bit You might want to back it off a tick or two. I'll give you another trick, when you set one up and you think it sounds OK, back it off a another notch.
 
I like the MCs....nice presence and they sound good together.
Another thing I dig is that the whole track has a very old school feel to it....reminds me of when I first got into rap. I mean this in a good way. It's something you don't hear now as much for some reason.

The only thing I don't dig is I want to hear more low end....kick and bass notes specificly. Vocals might be a tad loud, too.

Cool shit!

heylow
 
can I please see a show of hands :D

Id like to specifically know if you think the track has too much reverb.

A dude told me it had too much. I'm thinking he is a fan of the dry, dead sound, but I need to know if this is the general consensus.

I'm not sure I would change anything though. I like this processed sound.
 
I like the voice.
great presence.
nice selection of frequencys.
natural sound and bright.

I agree it need more low end.
I use the 75 cut in my board for everything,
exept bass and kick.

more low end and carefull with bass and kick masking.

the reverb u use give it and original sound.
i like it too.

also try another sound/acompaiment
covering the mid bass range:

high: HitHat
mid high: bells
mid: voice
mid bass: ??
bass: kick and bass

I like the MCs too.
 
Sounds pretty cool. The reverb is a judgement call. I would use a touch less. I was getting enough very low bass on my sub but there doesnt seem to be enough low mid's to give it enough attack.

The vocals jump around a bit and generally are a touch too loud. It may be that the reverb just needs to be tweaked a little more because they dont quite sit well enough.

I liked it and I hate most rap.
 
thanks texroad kill and proveras,

I turned down the reverb return down a little.

I've noticed that I always mix vocals loud. I need an alternate pair of speakers that will make me mix the vocals less loud.

I noticed that the kick was not punchy enough, but there was nothing I could do since I had maxed out my available headroom.

I am working on a new mix that will run this one into the ground. I'll see if I can get the talent's permission to post it.
 
hey Cyan,

Is that you rappin'??? It sounds good... If your looking for opinions on the reverb, I would think there is a little bit too much.... I'm sure it's preference, but for this vocal style, it doesn't work as well.... but it definitely doesn't sound bad... I almost think I hear the compressor sometimes but maybe it's just my ears...

good job
 
sounds good (for rap:p ) to me. Doesn't sound at all like your other stuff, voice or music wise....even the lyrics:eek:

Now...I'll go on a rap/hate rampage here...

I hear samples put together, no actual stuff (like real musical performances) being recorded, and a vocal style that I have always failed to hear (or learn to appreciate) any talant. I feel musically, this is a 5 minute, throw together composition, that done on a keyboard workstation, could be written, assembled, and recorded EXTREMELY fast. Then, grab a mic, and 'rap' on top of it. I'm sorry...I just haven't the ears to appreciate the work gone into this. I guess I need to go slam out a 3 chord power trio song to be a hyprocrite!!;) ,
 
Thought that you got the low end sounding pretty thumpy and the vocals had a nice presence throughout. The complaints about the kick are right on the money- you may have to give up some of that other low end to give the kick more punch.

I wasn't even bothered by that DJ scratch sound or the overall hateful tone in the vocals... :)
 
I'll take angry, attitude, NWA or IceT type of rap before any of that bs bragging rap. At least the angry rap sounds honest and not about being a 'playa'.
 
mixmkr:

Don't knock it until you've tried it. It's not easy to put together a good rap song. Have you ever tried to rap? It's not as easy as it "sounds".
 
Yeah, putting together a good rap would be quite hard. It's kind of like vocal free style.

I like it overall. Vocals are well done. Reverb sounds good to me. Doesn't sound typical. But who wants that?

Things I don't like:

-argghhh, cowbell!!!
-bass is too squashed, back up on the compressor a bit (at least for this), or increase the attack setting. You could also sample a new sound with a better attack.

-Sal
 
synergy said:
mixmkr:

Don't knock it until you've tried it. It's not easy to put together a good rap song. Have you ever tried to rap? It's not as easy as it "sounds".
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you're probably right...Like I said, I haven't the ears to appreciate it. The background music, I might disagree with you on, however....but then again...I could be wrong...I was once back in '93!;)
 
Not much to add to what's already been said, but I had one thought.

Since the vox are a tad loud, perhaps turining them down just a little would help with the reverb, too? At least on the vocals. There is a lot of reverb on the tune, but it gives it an ambient flavor that I like. If that's what you were going for, it worked! ;)

Take care,
Chris
 
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