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well its still in the works but i just had to post some pictures of my progress.... cuz of some random impusle. This is my bros room... i informed him as soon as he left for college it was mine. Further plans include some auralex acoustics treatment... a futon thing so ppl can live in there.... and really thick curtains.

it started like this

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here is some progress


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what it looks like now

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talk to you all later
 
Just a comment. Get some stands for those guitars. We probably fix 100 broken headstocks a year from people who lean their guitars against the wall like that.


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pretty cool man....

lava lamp is a definite essential in all studios....

I see a Delta 1010 AND an Audigy Platinum....

new install on the 1010?

what I don't see is monitors.....I see headphones....
do you mix on cans man?

and yeah....stands or wall hooks for the guits man....

you are on your way man...

go for it :D
 
ya i definately still need a lot of things... my freind has some of those good quality wall stands to hang them from but im not sure if I trust them enough.

For now im just messing around with signals basically and I cant buy monitors but im planning on getting some very soon. If anyone has feedback on them that would be great. Im looking for something not too expensive but wont crap out on me after a few months. I dont need anything too pro.

The computer came with the Audigy and its cool but the budget had the 1010 included. I need to upgrade to 2004 so i can use all the inputs.

ill put more pics up when im done
Rudy
 
I would suggest M-Audio BX-5's....
Those are the nicest inexpensive monitors, I have a pair.
Breakem in a bit and they fly!!!!!
I have had a pair for a year and they sound great! and only $300.00!!!!!

I worked for a store that sells them(I started after I bought them, Dang could have got a discount! oh well..)
Give them a call or e-mail they will beat any musiciansfriend or the like on the price.
http://www.americanguitarboutique.com
e-mail info@americanguitarboutique.com
phn# : 1-651-644-2333
Tell them Rick Sent you to them.
-Reco
 
Welcome to the board Rudy. Hey, your on your way, thats what counts. Homerecording is about using what ya got. If you've got a room dedicated to this stuff, then your already ahead of the game. I spent years in my bedroom before I could have a spare room for my recording interests. So hang in there, and btw, do some reading in the archives here. There are TONS of threads describing sound treatments that are much cheaper, and work better than the foam products. But, as usual, it depends on your own philosophy and pocket book. Well, have fun, your room is already looking a lot better. I would move my monitoring station up closer to the end of the room, under the window maybe and centered between the sidewalls. Stereo imaging will improve as asymetrical monitoring doesn't tell ya the truth. Of course, a lot of people don't either. Your needs also dictate whats important to you too. Only you can set your prioritys.

fitZ:D
 
wall stands for guitars and basses are fine... I use metal units where the back plate is metal as is the actual hook, and its covered with a non-stick rubbery coating that doesn't dry rot. If you anchor them into wall correctly, they will last you decades.
 
thanks for all the comments... ill look into those monitors. Yea one of the guys that plays guitar for me is gonna get me some of the wall hangers. Im most likely going to finish painting and pull up the carpet today. The wood floors underneath are in great condition but im not sure if i want to carpet the room ... or leave the wood and maybe just throw down a rug or two. Guess ill just have to see.

later
Rudy
 
Hey Rudy, carpet sucks up high frequency. Which is ok if you need it. But personally, I would keep the wood floors and throw down some small area rugs as you need it. Makes for diffusion also, as there is what's known as an EDGE effect, when you have small patchs of absorption, and small areas of refection. This effect, actually will account for more absorption than if the whole of the absorption were one large piece. Being as carpet absorbs highs, the small patches of reflection from the wood floors will make up for it to some degree, but allow for a more diffused quality. Believe me, I've heard it and it sounds much better. The wood also looks great. Once you put in a couple of bass traps, and some areas of absorption material, man, you will be amazed.
Take a search through here for "703". Don't laugh. This stuff works great.
Bottom line is small rooms accentuate low end, which in reality makes recordings sound muddy. Then they DON"T translate to other rooms and systems. If you absorb the lows and low mids, and diffuse the upper mids and highs, your recordings will sound much better, because the more you absorb lows, the better it sounds. Hence the use of bass traps. It is way beyond the scope of one little reply to explain it, and I'm not even qualified to do so, but I think most people here will agree. Your room dimensions are what really dictate which frequencys will be a problem. And MOST rooms of this size will benifit from bass trapping. Again, beyond the scope of this discussion.
However, realize this, even $3000 monitors will still lie to you, unless you treat the room correctly. They may sound better than what you have, but in the end, even they will not tell you truthfully what you have recorded, because the room "color"s the sound the mic's are picking up, and then, does it AGAIN when you play it back, so now you really don't have any reference point for your recordings. The more you EQ it, the worse it becomes. Get my drift. Anyway, good luck and I hope this helps some. Again, only my .02
Oh, btw, if you can find some slatwall, they make guitar hangers that are used in music stores, that fit slatwall, which allow you to move them anywhere, anytime, any level. Thats what I use and they work great.

fitZ.:)
 
joro said:
lava lamp is a definite essential in all studios....
:rolleyes:
Only for people with bad taste. You will NEVER see one in my studio!
Can you say: Tacky?
 
Michael Jones said:
:rolleyes:
Only for people with bad taste. You will NEVER see one in my studio!
Can you say: Tacky?


I heard that! what are they now...... $40? That's almost 10 sheets of 1/2" sheetrock to help isolate.... or money spent better elsewhere altogether. I do understand the sonic benefits of having one though! :rolleyes: :D
 
thanks fitz... i had a general idea of those concepts but you really filled me in on some good info. as for a lava lamp... haha well im kinda working on a blue them and lights are involved so... ill try this one i have out and see how it looks. My grandma (if it werent for her i wouldnt have anything) bought me some auralex.... i decided on a package after talking to some people and the guy at my local drum shop. The kit i got has the 2' x '2 squares and bass traps. Im almost done painting so after i get the drums set up im going to play with those. Im pretty sure im going to leave the wood and just put in an area rug or something. gotta have a place to sit hehe. Well thanks again... im sure youll hear from me soon

Rudy
 
[QUOTE]Only for people with bad taste[/QUOTE]

:eek: You can call me tacky, you can call me cheap, but please don't call me tasteless. Unless you eat one of my wifes dinners, that just might confirm it.:D (just kiddin with ya Michael)
 
Rudy,

Nice room, I love the Custom A cymbal i can see.... always my preference.

Rick is right on the money about the bass trapping - also about relocating the board.

It's very important that you monitor in a setting with acoustical symmetry....... otherwise you never get the true sound you're mixing.

On the issue of room dimensions determining modes - he is (once again) correct - but even if your room had perfect dimensions - and standing modes were not a problem - there are other issues that occur at all frequencies with "peaks and nulls" that will affect your mix.

Another thing that happens is reflections off the walls and ceiling will mess up the stereo imaging. This due to the fact that your left ear is hearing reflected sounds from your right speaker - and vis-versa.

So once you tame down the problems with bass frequencies - you will want to tackle reflected problems.

You can check at johnlsayers.com - or read thru Ethan Weiner's FAQ's at recording.org for more info on how to deal with these issues. Ethan also has some nice plans for DIY bass traps that work real well.

But you are well on your way to one hell of a nice room.

Congrats.....

Rod
 
Thanks for all he help and ideas guy... man im tired this is a lot of work for one guy haha. well anyway I just finished painting and pulling up the carpet so now I can start setting things up. I am going to go with fitz and move my desk centered under the window. I was thinking... would it help to have some auralex 2 X 2 squares behind the desk? I have 24 total so i was thinking maybe 5 behind the desk and then some on each side.. and maybe some at the end of the room. I have 8 bass traps also. Most likely ill get into all this after i have some stuff setup so i can actually hear it. thanks again for all the help. hopefully ill figure out how to pay for all this stuff hehe... guess i better get a job this summer. Ill post up new pics really soon :)

Rudy
 
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Looks great Rudy... It will be killer when it's all finished?
 
Michael Jones said:
:rolleyes:
Only for people with bad taste. You will NEVER see one in my studio!
Can you say: Tacky?
Sorry Michael - I have to disagree.......... every client who comes in comments positively on the Lava Lamp in my control room.... it's become part of the vibe!
 
Michael, you're confusing "tacky" with "camp" - oh well, ya probly don't watch really bad monster movies either... :=)
 
Blue Bear Sound said:
Sorry Michael - I have to disagree.......... every client who comes in comments positively on the Lava Lamp in my control room.... it's become part of the vibe!



I have people turn mine on as soon as the walk in the room. Nobody has yet to look at it and say, eew! But hey, if Michael is not a lava lamp guy, I guess I can forgive him for that.
 
Blue Bear Sound said:
Sorry Michael - I have to disagree.......... every client who comes in comments positively on the Lava Lamp in my control room.... it's become part of the vibe!

Id have to agree with Bruce, and I will also say that I think Mikey is in the minority when it comes to lava lamps.


I think has to do with your intended clients too. Even my Classical Clients like the lava :)

I suppose my animal skin rug (Deaf Leppards ) ;) are tacky.... but very Vibey.

SoMm
 
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