I hope it is not a sign

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I spent alot of time writing an elegant request for review and then my puter died.

Oh - well -
http://www.nowhereradio.com/artists/album.php?aid=2474&alid=-1

Old songs mixed from a vs-840 -
I wouldesire some input related to everything -
lyric
music
mix

Want some confirmation that I should continue or that I should stop wasting my time.

Thanks in advance for spending any time listening and or responding - I realize time is the only unrecoverable resource.

Brian
 
CRASH

Bleonard,

Can't access your tune. I get an SQL error.

BPOCO
 
nowhereradio is dead, SQL errors showing up all over the site. Bummer! :(
 
NoWhere is not dead at all. The line provider decided to pull maintenance in the middle of the night, and the connection between the output server and the database server was lost.

W.
 
NONE of the streams of your tunes work at nowhereradio at the moment,and you dont have downloads enabled.I'll check back later.
 
Uh, working fine for me Kramer? What do you mean not working?

W.
 
TheRealWaldo said:
Uh, working fine for me Kramer? What do you mean not working?

W.
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This is what I get when I try to stream his songs:

Cannot find: mmst://hosting.nowhereradio.com/wmstream/bleonard/things_can_only_get_be.mp3. Please verify that the path and filename are correct. (Error=C00D001A)

Cannot find: http://hosting.nowhereradio.com/wmstream/bleonard/things_can_only_get_be.mp3. Please verify that the path and filename are correct. (Error=80070002)

Cannot find: mmsu://hosting.nowhereradio.com/wmstream/bleonard/things_can_only_get_be.mp3. Please verify that the path and filename are correct. (Error=C00D001A)

Cannot open. Please verify that the path and filename are correct and try again. (Error=C00D001A)
 
Ah, you are using WMP, what a piece of crap! ;)

Just restarted the WMS service, try again.

W.
 
bleonard said:


Want some confirmation that I should continue or that I should stop wasting my time.
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Dude, no matter what some dick on a BBS might say, NOBODY should stop recording...LOL. It's the greatest waste of time of all time.

Okay, I listened to "Things Can Only Get Better," b/c that's just my kind of title. You have a cool singing style...Mark Knopfler-ish. Kinda' half singing, half talking sometimes. That's a unique gift, man...I mean it. I've heard people who sing a lot "better" that I don't like nearly as much. Plus, when you ARE singing, it's in key pretty much.

I haven't listened to it enough to try some kind of BS song critique, but I heard enough to know that you seem to write intelligent lyrics. ("money, lies, truth or shame"..nice). Another bonus to go with the voice.

Mix Part:
Something's weird about the mp3 size. The tune plays out at about 7:35 (which is WAY too long), but then it cuts off really abruptly. Did I miss a cutoff in the song somewhere, and then it started over? or is it really this long?

BRING VOCAL UP. I don't think the drums are too loud (except for that picallo snare - more on that below), but the vocal is kinda' buried.

YOUR DRUMS SOUND LIKE COMPLETE AND TOTAL DOGSHIT. (lmao) - I mean that in the nicest possible way :D :D And you kinda' changed the snare sound from a fatter snare to a totally in your face picallo sounding thing during the chorus...that's really distracting, and I know NOTHING about drums.

That little lead part on the right is interesting...I don't think I've ever heard a tone exactly like that ever. You might consider bringing it down some in the mix...it's kinda' in the same place as your vocal, and I'd lower it. It needs to be "ambience" instead of competition.

Okay, that's all I'm gonna' talk about; there's other stuff (there's ALWAYS other stuff, LOL). I hope this didn't sound totally negative, because I'm hearing positive stuff through the mediocre mix. Your voice and writing are telling me that you're gonna' kick serious ass when you get the recording thing down a little better. I hate recording...seriously, I hate it. :D

Good luck. Check out some other tunes here if you get a chance, and don't ever take mix advice (or career advice) from some total stranger on the internet....LOL.

:D
 
TheRealWaldo said:
Ah, you are using WMP, what a piece of crap! ;)

Just restarted the WMS service, try again.

W.
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Piece of crap?!LMAO!:D

I have Winamp and I hate it.I have Musicmatch Jukebox and I hate it.I have Real Jukebox and I hate it.

I hate the Latest version of Windows Media Player.

I use(dont laugh) windows Media Player 6.4 when ever I can...if that fails totally then I resort to Winamp.

Now you can laugh.:D
 
Thanks

Back from my End of the world trip to Disneyland:)

Firstly - sorry for the bad link
In addition I will enable downloads as soon as I finish this post.

Thanks to all who attempted and/or listened.

chrisharris -
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THANKS FOR THE DETAILED REPLY -
your time and effort are very much appreciated!

point taken about being dissuaded from my efforts by some anonymous response!

Had to look up Mark Knopfler - :)
Thanks for the kind words - I have always been very shy/worried about my voice as an instrument - I have always respected "Tje Church" and especially Steve Kilbey. http://church.tristesse.com/faq.htm

He has the abillity to speak and sing within the same phrase and IMHO draws me into his world as he spings (speaks/sings)

Lyric is hard for me - I do not want to be trite but nor do I want to be to obtuse - a hard balance for me to strike(se what I mean about trite Vernaculars?) . I struggle most with writing in the first person - most songs I hear seem to be written in third person - I just cannot translate my emotion and experiences to 3rd person without feeling I am being too assuming - is this a common problem.

"BRING VOCAL UP" - I am nervous of my voice - it sounds so ??? ordinary - that is why I tend to mix it low. Your kind words have inspired me - thanks.

"MIX Part" -
It is one long f-ing song. I just love all the lyric and the solo instrumentals and cannot decide what to cut:)

"YOUR DRUMS SOUND LIKE COMPLETE AND TOTAL DOGSHIT"
I know - actually I have very few songs with drums as I know next to nothing about drums and so far every drummer I have collaborated with was a total flake - actually this is the only song I thought that had decent drums - Oh well - I guess I have much to learn. Maybe no drums?;) Please? Probably not:)

"That little lead part on the right is interesting...I don't think I've ever heard a tone exactly like that ever. You might consider bringing it down some in the mix...it's kinda' in the same place as your vocal, and I'd lower it. It needs to be "ambience" instead of competition."
OK - it seems so much higher than the vocals - how is it competing for space? Can I use eq to mix it - panning? I really like it - it is the melody in minor and INHO kinda makes the song destinctive.

"I hope this didn't sound totally negative, because I'm hearing positive stuff through the mediocre mix. Your voice and writing are telling me that you're gonna' kick serious ass when you get the recording thing down a little better. I hate recording...seriously, I hate it. "
Not negative at all - I appreciate the feedback - I know I can do better and I appreciate the feedback.
I ALSO HATE RECORDING - give me a decent mic and an acoustic guitar and I am happy - maybe that is the key ?

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TheRealWaldo -
Thanks for corecting my link !

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RE: streming media player I have no opinion

Thanks all - there are a few other tunes up there - any takers?

Brian
 
You got a better sound than I did when I started recording at home here. Its clean and your getting all the voice of the instruments well. The mixing could use some tweaking in some eq and levels on the tracks. The voice could be louder, you got the drums right there, some time playing them will smooth that out , and some cymbals and high hat.
Guitar parts were good, some eq to separate them a little. The rythym seemed somewhat overdominant and the mix was pretty bass heavy to me. Good lyrics and tune flows.. :)
 
again thanks

Toki987 -
I appreciate your time. Thanks for listening.

I also have noticed a pronouced bass influence from the guitars -
to correct the "bass heavy" - do you suggest eq while tracking or during mix?

Brian
 
Yeah

I listened to "Simple"...and I liked it. It was.....well......simple. Kind of soothing. I hear some Mark Knopfler in there too.

A little out of tunish vocals at points that bugged me just a little. But good job. I like the drums...good fills.

And you know, drummers are just kind of a flaky race in general....I sympathize there.

Tucci
 
I`m not an engineer like some of these guys, but I have learned from them to capture it as close to what you want as you can get it while tracking, you can subtract from that point when mixing, its harder to add something thats not there. I've learned that the sound I like for an instrument may be just right , but when added to the rest of the instruments that have frequencies in or near the same area, tend to meld together and are sometimes too dominant collectively, causing mud. Like taking away low mids in a bass drum can make the bass clearer and fat, while making the bass drum sound tighter and articulate . Works the same for guitars and pianos too. These folks are great ..... I`ll hush, this is your thread capitan! :)
 
There's room for improvement yes, but nobody's perfect. It's a cool tune I like a lot of things I hear. Sometimes it almost sounds like a Dillon phrasing and lyric.

These are the things I hear that I think can be improved on.
That clam at 2:59 has got to go. It detracts from all the nice guitar parts just prior to it.

I think the bass may be a little loud but I don't know if it's good and the parts around it are low??? Someone with more experience can define it better.

The vocals are inaudible sometimes. There was one part, I should have wrote it down, maybe around 1:30, that I played 2X and still don't know what it was.

Don't stop recording. If you look to other for final approval you'll be disappointed a majority of the time. I do it for myself. I do it for "FUN". Music should always be fun.

I gave my self that artist name on my page "ITCHY KRAK" to remind me that having fun is the most important rule. (to me)

Joe
 
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