I have had Three major Breakthroughs

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and i wasn't playing Blocker or Bustout.


I have had some mind changing sonic breakthroughs with re-guard to mixing and to a lesser degree mastering.

If anyone would like me to mix a track for them please post it so i can listen as i need to see this effect on different aspects of frequency range.

so for anyone that is not quite with this i will mix your song for you because i can... i have literally spent thousands of man hours on this sort of thing so for it to now have shown it's self through this accident/co-incidence makes me happy.

i will post some results up here soon… it's hard without a before and after but?

I’ll try to get two up. (for anyone interested.)
 
They probably have to do with throwing out any microphone that costs more than 3 dollars, and rerecording all of your tracks in a perfect cube with no wall treatment. :D
 
what are they?

i want to post a blind A B test up.

will do soon.

no still using that $30 mic really nice sound, has it.
 
What exactly do you need for an A/B proof? I'm curious as to what your "breakthroughs" are....
 
You know the day destroys the night ...
Night divides the day ...
Tried to run
Tried to hide
Break on through ...

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Does it have anything to do with your recent acquisition of egg cartons and T-Racks?
 
Have you seen Har-Bal? Despite its reputation here, it really sounds like you are trying to recreate it. I wouldn't put thousands of hours into something I expected no return on. Are you writing a VST?
 
hi

mshilarious

no, nothing to do with Hal-Bar.

the track you heard was a backward adapted version, an old song i was playing catch-up with (the sauce).

i have a track that is (ONLY A MIXdown) that i will post in the MP3 clinic that was basically created from the start with this in mind..

keep in mind i have not heard it on anything other than mp3 headphones.

since this mix. (i'm mixing with mp3 headphones only sometimes).

nothing to do with the cartons as such, although the eggs are of use i've found that people eat them.
 
theblackBay said:
i have literally spent thousands of man hours on this sort of thing.....
....keep in mind i have not heard it on anything other than mp3 headphones.
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I'm practically peeing myself in anticipation. Someone alert Walters.
 
theblackBay said:
I have had some mind changing sonic breakthroughs with re-guard to mixing and to a lesser degree mastering.
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What are they?



Jeez and I thought that this was a forum for sharing knowledge, not an "I've got a secret and I'm not going to tell you" forum
 
Greg

i'l grant you that pass.. don't pass go and don't collect $200 ;)



Leigion no it's not a "i have a secret forum", i agree.

as there is no real secret a good mix will sound good, the variables become very wide it's an overall start to finish thing.

i just found issues with, specific things relating to my mixes low fequency etc.

often some of these whole multiple harmonics . going up the scale> can cancel (or so it would seem) some signifigant mid fequencies.

that was one of my most signifigant points the other relates to 3k harshness and a form of managment in that area.

the other i'm not sure i can remember? must not have been that signifigant???

oh,..i split my listening devices between a dedicated low and a dedicated high frequency version i.e seperate the scale and work on each one at a time.

that would have been it.

the sound is improving that's all that counts for me.
 
theblackBay said:
the other relates to 3k harshness and a form of managment in that area.
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I would be interested to hear you views on that.

No I'm not being sarcastic. As a lot of my music involves distorted guitars, I often have a bit of harshness around that area on those guitar tracks. I have found that angling the mic towards the edge of the speaker when tracking helps,but I'm always interested to hear new ideas. :)
 
Here's a tip to help you some more. Start you mix at the loudest part of the song, instead of the beginning, and mix down from there.
 
leigon

i wouldn't worry too much about it coming in at the mic point just get the basic sound you want.

because really you will want that harmonic distortion present it's the balance that makes the difference --- some say EQ hmm I’d do thing a little different although eq is a solution i suppose.

so I’d say record everything (within reason) then manipulate post track.

I’ve really noticed something about modern metal (2001+) and this 3k 4k harshness and you can believe me or not but I really truly believe this has come about to a large degree because of mass human deafness.

there are all sorts of sociological reason i could delve into but basically i think kids have become deaf to it this fequency and to a large degree some mixing engineers (especially if they came from a live mixing background)...(which one does seem to find a lot of the time with "metal" engineers)

interesting.

I recently attended a live concert in a less than perfect venue and it was very loud - i mean really the sound was horrible (no, i don't believe it's just me getting old) it really did sound horrible the higher feq were terrible, but most other people didn't even seen to notice.... i put this down to deafness.

the reason i didn't bring ear plug was because the reputation of the band i thought would preclude that fact that the sound would be A1 but alas it was not, I have taken a considerable hit to my hearing I think in this regard.

luckily i didn't have chronic ringing (but a little) and i can still (i think) hear as well.
 
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