I have $4K to gear up for a music video. Here's what I need...

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  • A AVCHD camera recording in 1920x1080p to SDHC media
  • A 3.5" (minimum) external HD monitor
  • 25' (minimum) dolly track and dolly
  • A 4 input/2 output (minimum) Firewire A/D/A converter/soundcard with excellent pres
  • An excellent 'Neumann quality' large condenser vocal mic
  • Two small condensers for guitar/bass
  • Video editing software
  • Audio editing software
  • A panel reflector (for fill when filming outdoors)
  • Mic stand(s), pop filter, cables, misc., etc.

This will be filmed mostly outdoors but a low lux camera is preferred just in case.

Please help!
 
Here's what I'd do.....

I'd get a AVCHD camera recording in 1920x1080p to SDHC media
A 3.5" (minimum) external HD monitor
A 25' (minimum) dolly track and dolly
A 4 input/2 output (minimum) Firewire A/D/A converter/soundcard with excellent pres
An excellent 'Neumann quality' large condenser vocal mic
Two small condensers for guitar/bass
Video editing software
Audio editing software
A panel reflector (for fill when filming outdoors)
Mic stand(s), pop filter, cables, misc., etc.

but that's just me ;)




:laughings:

actually......BUMP :)
 
Except that you list $40K of gear to be bought with $4K.

A decent tripod and fluid head will run $1K. And you'll probably need lights too. Not that you can't rent a lot of this stuff. But if you want to get artsy on it, some of those high quality lenses can run $60K and up. Never mind the whole audio backend just to have something to shoot the video for.

You could always DIY a lot of that stuff. Skateboard instead of dolly. Spend $1K laying down the audio in a studio. And lip sync to it at the shoot. A decent AVCHD camcorder (consumer) is gonna run $1K-ish. A pro-sumer one $3K easy. Software can get up there in price depending on what you need. Never mind the location and/or set where you plan to shoot the video. Or the computer plus HDDs to do the editing. Power strips, extension cables, generators and such depending on where you plan on shooting.

Is this just one song or an entire album? Do you plan on having $4K worth of liquid-able assets afterwards, or is the $4K disposable just for the video? Never mind that one camcorder equals three times through just to get three camera angles. Is this something commercially viable, or just a yo ma, I'm on youtube...
 
Except that you list $40K of gear to be bought with $4K...

Hahahahaha. Thank you. No, really. I haven't laughed so hard in months. I am serious about the music video though. I have three twenty-somethings... a female vocalist and two musicians... who are really really good and I want to get them some exposure.

I've spec'd out a kit but I wanted to see what... if anything... anybody else might come up with. I certainly appreciate the tremendous constraints of the budget. There ain't any Sound Design 302 field mixers or Sanken shotgun mics in my setup, let me assure you. Though the camera/dolly setup is... ah... innovative. :cool:
 
  • A AVCHD camera recording in 1920x1080p to SDHC media
  • A 3.5" (minimum) external HD monitor
  • 25' (minimum) dolly track and dolly
  • A 4 input/2 output (minimum) Firewire A/D/A converter/soundcard with excellent pres
  • An excellent 'Neumann quality' large condenser vocal mic
  • Two small condensers for guitar/bass
  • Video editing software
  • Audio editing software
  • A panel reflector (for fill when filming outdoors)
  • Mic stand(s), pop filter, cables, misc., etc.

This will be filmed mostly outdoors but a low lux camera is preferred just in case.

Please help!

Well.......yes. :D
 
How hard do you want to work? You can do a lot with PVC. If your marching technique is up to par, something shoulder-ish and walk gently. 90% of quality video is rigging IMO. If you're indoors, you want a wide angle lens. You can only back up so far when a wall is involved. A wide angle also helps with low light performance and stabilization.

What I have is a Sanyo FH1 for video. Stabilization sucks, so a monopod and a spider brace mated with an ace bandage. (I'm cheap, not to imply cheap). And a couple $10-$15 clamp style work lights. A pack of $5 copy paper and a roll of $5 electrical tape for my green screen. I used the electrical tape because my transparent tape is too old to function, but it turns out that the stretchy electrical tape is almost ideal. Sticks well and is easily adjusted / removed.

For audio, I have Avenson STO-2 for a stereo pair. Run into some sound devices MM-1's (2x mono preamps). Run into a Korg MR-1000. DIY shockmounts, DIY fake fur, and various other rigging. HQ cables. Most of which are new.

Total tally at todays-ish prices. $2,500K-ish in audio, and $500-ish in video. But little more than a soccer mom would have at $3K-ish. Which I guess would be the minimum. $100 monopod, $70 spider brace, $300 camcorder, $350 x2 preamps, $1,200 field recorder, $500 in mics, $200 in cables and accessories. And that's probably the lowball estimate of my current setup. As I crave mics nearly double or more of my current mics. Plus a camcorder nearly 5x's my current cams value. Just a hard compromise when I can get 5x of my current cam for multiple camera angles. Rig that up right and it's Imax (or as close as you can get on a budget).
 
How hard do you want to work?

Not hard.

What I have is a Sanyo FH1 for video...

I'll be purchasing a Panasonic AG-HCK10/AG-HMR10 'bullet' camera kit for $2K (essentially 50% off retail). The camera is operated at the end of a 10' long (65' available) control cable. The HMR10 recorder/control unit incorporates a 3.5" display. The camera is image stabilized but I've cobbled up a dolly system using 0 gauge model railroad track. The camera will sit on a fluid head mounted in turn on a cheap modified 0 gauge model train engine and I'll be able to pan and zoom (though not tilt) the camera remotely.

For audio, I have Avenson STO-2 for a stereo pair. Run into some sound devices MM-1's (2x mono preamps). Run into a Korg MR-1000. DIY shockmounts, DIY fake fur, and various other rigging. HQ cables. Most of which are new.

I'm going to pop for a couple of Naiant X-S small condensers for the guitar/bass and a CAD/OktavaMod GXL3000 large condenser for vocals. These will run into a Avid MBox 3 Pro A/D/A interface and in turn to a Dell 1420 dual core laptop. No serious audio recording will take place outside. I'd like to get a copy of DualEyes to sync up the audio with the video. We'll see.

The software suite (I'm not happy about this but budget budget budget) is Sony Vegas Movie Studio HD Platinum for video and DigiDesign ProTools LE for audio. Most of these components are based on Academic pricing where available.

Wish me luck.
 
Why is editing software and converter/pres on the list.. I mean don't you already have these things of your own to use?
 
Why is editing software and converter/pres on the list.. I mean don't you already have these things of your own to use?

Sure, but the 1010LT isn't all that portable seeing how it's in a massive tower and the converters are just so-so.
 
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