i hate drums

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Its just not fun anymore, it used to be when i thought i was good a few years ago. but now the practising for 2 hours a day is just a thing i have to do. I just end up getting tired, pissed off and it feels like i waste two hours in the proccess. Improving myself now is near impossible and i hate the way i play, its so inconsitant. The novelty wore off but i feel i have to become good cause it looks like there's nothing else ahead for me. I just want to through away my sticks and sit down, watch TV like everyone else does. :cool:
 
I got the same way and ended up putting down the sticks (oh how dramatic! LOL!) for a couple years. Just recently got back into playing.

My advice? Stick with it. Find something really unusual to practice, like an Afro-Cuban beat or something. When I got back into playing I went through all my old Modern Drummer magazines and went through the lessons that years ago, I'd flipped by to look at the pretty drum pictures instead. Some of them are really cool.

Try maybe working on your rudiments (or learning new ones) for a while, don't spend 2 hours, instead spend 20 minutes with a practice pad just to keep your chops up. Who says 2 hours is a rule?
 
FunkDaddy said:
Try maybe working on your rudiments (or learning new ones) for a while, don't spend 2 hours, instead spend 20 minutes with a practice pad just to keep your chops up. Who says 2 hours is a rule?
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I normally do 1 1/2 - 2 hours a day on the kit doing everything (reading, playing along (occasionally) and working on endurance/speed. I work quite alot on double bass which SERIOUSLY aggrivates me) And then spend about 15-30 minutes on a pad going through a book called 'understanding rhythm' which is basically rudiments and i mess around wit that and a metranome.
It SUCKS :rolleyes:
 
How much do you gig?? Practising without interacting with other musicians and to a lessor degree getting the immediate gratification that comes with people applauding can indeed feel like a dead end.
 
breeeeza said:
I normally do 1 1/2 - 2 hours a day on the kit doing everything (reading, playing along (occasionally) and working on endurance/speed. I work quite alot on double bass which SERIOUSLY aggrivates me) And then spend about 15-30 minutes on a pad going through a book called 'understanding rhythm' which is basically rudiments and i mess around wit that and a metranome.
It SUCKS :rolleyes:
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See...it's no wonder you're burnt out on it bro! Spend some of that time instead listening to the greats like Tony Williams or whoever you dig and get some inspiration.

Why do you practice so much?
 
FunkDaddy said:
See...it's no wonder you're burnt out on it bro! Spend some of that time instead listening to the greats like Tony Williams or whoever you dig and get some inspiration.

Why do you practice so much?
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Yer i watch my idol's and other drummers quite alot, especially on youtube. I just hate being inconsistant, some days i can pull off clean 210 bpm double bass and somedays i do a really uneven 150bpm. Its crap.
One day, hopefully, it will all pay off :rolleyes:
 
Also for me to become competant at anything i have to work hard for it, nothing comes 'naturally' to me in terms of any skill.
 
Are you in a band?

What's your short and long term goals here?

Are you practiving so much because you want to be able to play like someone or play a certain music style better? Or because you want to rock at shows? Whats the end game?

It sounds like your just taking it too seriously.
Go the Zen route (do nothing to understand something , go left to turn right, etc...) and take a break. You may find your playing imporoves.
At any rate - it sounds like you need a different approach.
 
Do you take lessons? I have been playing for 17 years and went back to lessons a few months ago. I don't care how long you have been playing or how good you are, you can still learn something new from others with different experiences and perspectives. I was always sort of a hot shit jazzbo type and the teacher I am with now is very much into groove and less is more. "Why are there more Motown hit tunes than Dave Weckl wanking tunes?" is his question. A very different way of thinking. Also, breaking out of a genre is a good thing. If I had to play nothing but Weezer all day, I would go nuts. But balance between rudiments, jazz, rock, hip hop, ethnic, and other styles keeps me constantly interested. I find a lot of drummers pigeon hole themselves and "only play metal". That is fine for a while, but I would get tired of the same bowl of cerial every morning, dig? And end game is everything. Do you just want to pick up chicks? Work in the studio? What is your goal? What is your motivation? Why are you practicing what you are practicing now? As my teacher tells me, practice time is a precious commodity. Use it wisely. Think about effctive use of your practice time. Are you working on the things that will get you to your goal?

It also sounds like you have left field expectations... you can do 210 bpm double kick... so what? Do you commit to every note? Is every note quality? Or are you just banging? I am serious. One thing that will help you more than anything is practicing slowly with a metronome. Really. Don't speed up until you have so mastered a slower tempo that you can't screw it up. My guess is you are working too har don the wrong things the wrong way.
 
bubbagump said:
Do you take lessons? I have been playing for 17 years and went back to lessons a few months ago. I don't care how long you have been playing or how good you are, you can still learn something new from others with different experiences and perspectives. I was always sort of a hot shit jazzbo type and the teacher I am with now is very much into groove and less is more. "Why are there more Motown hit tunes than Dave Weckl wanking tunes?" is his question. A very different way of thinking. Also, breaking out of a genre is a good thing. If I had to play nothing but Weezer all day, I would go nuts. But balance between rudiments, jazz, rock, hip hop, ethnic, and other styles keeps me constantly interested. I find a lot of drummers pigeon hole themselves and "only play metal". That is fine for a while, but I would get tired of the same bowl of cerial every morning, dig?
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I have been playing for 8 years and have had lessons for 8 years. Im deffinatly open minded in terms of what i play. I try to play as many differnt genres as possible but everyone has a faveorite type of music and/or drummer that they want to play like and my inspiration is Derek Roddy amongst many other great drummers.
 
gbondo9 said:
Are you in a band?

What's your short and long term goals here?

Are you practiving so much because you want to be able to play like someone or play a certain music style better? Or because you want to rock at shows? Whats the end game?

It sounds like your just taking it too seriously.
Go the Zen route (do nothing to understand something , go left to turn right, etc...) and take a break. You may find your playing imporoves.
At any rate - it sounds like you need a different approach.
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Short term goals - to be talented at something (drums)
long term - to be the best drummer that i am able to be.
 
Even Neil Peart took lessons well into his career - just a few years ago IIRC - and it altered his attitude and approach.
 
Same teacher? Different teachers? If it is the same teacher, maybe it is time for a change?

And don't do this to be "talented at something". Do it becuase you love it. Hell, become a trampoline champion or shuffle board pro... Why drums? If you aren't doing it because you love it, you are in it for the wrong reasons. If you just want to be good at something, anything, pick something easy and be done with it. If you really love the drums, the pile of saw dust under your high hat, the crack of new heads being seated, finally "getting" a new rhythm etc... then we have something to work with.
 
I love sitting down and playing some phat (however you describe it) beats. i hate the practise involved to get that solid.
Ofcourse i love it, otherwise i wouldnt want to be 'great' at it.
 
breeeeza said:
I normally do 1 1/2 - 2 hours a day on the kit doing everything (reading, playing along (occasionally) and working on endurance/speed. I work quite alot on double bass which SERIOUSLY aggrivates me) And then spend about 15-30 minutes on a pad going through a book called 'understanding rhythm' which is basically rudiments and i mess around wit that and a metranome.
It SUCKS :rolleyes:
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well why do u torture yourself?
masochist?(sp?)

call a guitarist over and play together, much more fun to play along with other instruments (which im sure u know)

maybe give lessons and teach drumming!
 
breeeeza said:
One day, hopefully, it will all pay off :rolleyes:
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If you are looking for payoff (of any kind), you are wasting your time. If you don't enjoy the process, stop. The world has too many drummers as it is.
 
Gamelan said:
If you are looking for payoff (of any kind), you are wasting your time. If you don't enjoy the process, stop. The world has too many drummers as it is.
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Yup, the practice is half the fun. But also, you never responded, are you really using your practice time and practicing effectively? You can pound in a nail with a soup spoon, but would you really want to? I really have a feeling you haven't learned how to practice.... sitting at the kit playing is not practice.
 
breeeeza said:
I love sitting down and playing some phat (however you describe it) beats. i hate the practise involved to get that solid.
Ofcourse i love it, otherwise i wouldnt want to be 'great' at it.
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Switch things up completely, instead of taking lessons and practicing, teach someone to play and show them what they are capable of, you will pick up the stuff that is missing for you now.

Forgive me for saying, please, it isn't my place to speculate, but note that your situation really has little to do with drums or dumming, it is in your skull. You are not talking about music, you are talking about who you are. Consider taking an honest look at what all this means to you personally, and how much of it is getting in your way. Sounds like you might be hung up on what your dumming says about you as a person- if you are not perfect and able to reach your goal, you as a person suck, etc. Now i as a drummer and muscian in general am complete with the suck, but the thing about getting good at anything is that once practice and a certain degree of hard work gets you to a point where you have ability, a persons ego often becomes the limiting factor. Anxiety and fear make you second guess everything and you lose the relaxed ease that talent ought to bring. That is why everyone is saying "find a way to make it fun again" in so many words.

Daav
 
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Playing with others for fun is still practice, as well as playing live. Find a way to play with others, don't worry about being perfect, no drummer is.

Drumming is fun, loose the pressure. Go watch Big Time by Billy Ward, go listen to a local band, listen to Stubblefield and Starks with James Brown, go see Medeski, Martin, and Wood then catch Tommy Lee's tour... you get the idea. Good luck, we all have ups and downs (we are human after all :p ). It could be worse, you could be practicing SIX hours a day and going nowhere! :eek:
 
i think its because when your not very good you feel like your improving everytime you play (which might be true) and you think your good cause you can play the songs off the radio. :rolleyes: Then you keep at that and you think your really good. Then you look at your playing and really, your crap. Then you practise rudiments again, work on endurance and work on how you play and how to use your muscles efficiantly and allthough you can play all the songs on the radio, your awful.

thats basically what happened to me about a year and a half ago, and to me i havnt improved much at all since then dispite the practise.

What im trying to say is, its really easy to improve when what your improving on is really simple. But then improving from complex playing takes for ever.

I think? :confused: :D
 
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