i don't want to write pop songs!

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i've been writing and recording music for the past 6 years... i just recently started mixing digitally and mastering material to cd's...where do i go from here? been in and out of different studios with my final cd and most of the engineers agree that nothing should be changed, so where do i go from here? they all also warned me that having too many different styles on a cd would work against me if i was to try to push it to labels. but i don't want to write pop songs...i make white boy hip-hop, acoustic rants, soundtrack insanities...IS THERE NO SPOT FOR ME IN THE MUSIC COMMUNITY? i want my music to be heard and maybe make a dollar doing it, but it seems an unopen market for an artist with no particular style to brainwash people with.. :(
 
Yea its tough to market music when the "higher ups" want to hear something thats already been done. All I can say is stick with what you're doing and do it the way you want to do it and make sure you're having fun in the process. Post your songs on mp3.com, and push it around on the internet. You will find people who dig it. Garageband.com is a good place to put your music if you want alot of second opinions. If you want to submit music to record labels but you're afraid they won't like some of the songs, gather up the songs that can be roughly fit into a specific genre and sumbit those to one label, then gather songs of a different genre and submit those to a different one. Maybe push the fact that you are very diverse. Make sure you write or call them first to get permission to submit your material. If you just send a CD to them they'll probably just throw it away. But who knows, maybe someday record companies will be calling you because they heard your CD and think your style might be the next big thing.
 
Screw the lables. I guess you have to decide what's important to you. If you want the record deal, change. If you want to make music that is true to your vision, keep at what you're doing. I'm in a similar position in a way...I want people to hear my music, but it has a fairly wide range of styles (probably not as wide as I think it is).

All I can say is do what you do and look for avenues to get people to hear it. Put it online, there are a million places to do that. Ask around, you'll come up a few before you know it. Keep asking people to listen to it. You might have to do a little more leg work, but you can be successful. You have to define what success is to you though, and that might be the hardest part. Good luck!
 
Screw the lables. I guess you have to decide what's important to you. If you want the record deal, change. If you want to make music that is true to your vision, keep at what you're doing. I'm in a similar position in a way...I want people to hear my music, but it has a fairly wide range of styles (probably not as wide as I think it is).

All I can say is do what you do and look for avenues to get people to hear it. Put it online, there are a million places to do that. Ask around, you'll come up a few before you know it. Keep asking people to listen to it. You might have to do a little more leg work, but you can be successful. You have to define what success is to you though, and that might be the hardest part. Good luck!

exactly! well put
 
"i don't want to write pop songs! "




I'm witcha....dats why I write beer songs.



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i know...i know...:rolleyes:
 
It kind of sounds like you want to have your cake and eat it too.

On one hand, you want to be this diverse, "screw the masses" kind of artist. But at the same time, you want labels to take you seriously, and it sounds like you want to have enough, dare I say, "appeal" to make money at this.

Decide what you want. Do you want to have popular appeal? Then adjust your approach and give people what they want to hear and pay money for, because that's all about marketing. If you want to do your own thing and say "masses, be damned!" ... then don't expect to make a lot of money at this, or at least expect a tougher road ahead of you. I certainly don't envy a guy in your position, but also keep in mind that just because you have talent doesn't mean you're somehow "entitled" to make a living at this.

There are a lot of uber-talented artists out there, and only a very tiny segment of them actually make any sort of money for their efforts. There's almost no middle class out there, and I'd guess about 80% of the total revenue in the music biz is being made by about 1% of the artists. And if you're not going to be in that 1%, then you'd probably be better off financially to start a live band karaoke or wedding cover band. :D
 
Well, considering that it was 2002 when he was bitching about it, if he's still at it, he's been bitching for 12 years now :D.

Just what we need...Graham Parker without the talent...

:D

G.
 
I dont think there is a market for white boy hip hop eminems got that one covered.
 
If you do whitey boy hip hop, then maybe you will recognize the age old line "are you in it for the money or in it for the love". Get that figured and your choice is made. I love making music, but I know I will never get signed. I don't like to lock myself in to one sound. That is why I spent all the time and money for college, to get a "real job" where I can make money so that I can spend it all on recording (not really, the wife keeps the spending well in check).
 
Why are people still posting serious replies to this thread?
 
Maybe some of us just like to take our time answering a question, Stevie.

:D

You got a problem with that?
 
Well, considering that it was 2002 when he was bitching about it, if he's still at it, he's been bitching for 12 years now :D.

Just what we need...Graham Parker without the talent...

:D

G.
How'd you screw the math on that one, Glen?


2008-2002=6....

:D
 
How'd you screw the math on that one, Glen?


2008-2002=6....

:D
Ah, but he'd already been spinning his wheels for 6 years when he wrote the OP:
samich17 said:
i've been writing and recording music for the past 6 years...
2008-2002 = 6; 6 + 6 = 12

:D

G.
 
That's a lot of bitching.
You obviously have not met my family; 12 years is nothing for them. My 87-yr-old mother is still bitching about stuff my late father did in 1947 :eek:.

:D

G.
 
i've been writing and recording music for the past 6 years... i just recently started mixing digitally and mastering material to cd's...where do i go from here? been in and out of different studios with my final cd and most of the engineers agree that nothing should be changed, so where do i go from here? they all also warned me that having too many different styles on a cd would work against me if i was to try to push it to labels. but i don't want to write pop songs...i make white boy hip-hop, acoustic rants, soundtrack insanities...IS THERE NO SPOT FOR ME IN THE MUSIC COMMUNITY? i want my music to be heard and maybe make a dollar doing it, but it seems an unopen market for an artist with no particular style to brainwash people with.. :(


Pop songs are popular songs. If your songs are not popular songs, you have reached your goal.
 
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