Bristol Posse
Okey Dokey
Hooray, I'm finally happy with my tone and it's a mix of ITB/OTB
I've been playing around with waves GTR 3.5 for about a year and couldn't get it to sound how I wanted, but since I don't have the space or the recording room or really the justification to spend a bunch of money on real amp heads and cabs (I don't gig and have already spent tons on gear for recording) I wanted to make it work
After putting a lot of work into major re setup of my guitar including new p'ups, pots, nut, bridge and tailpiece I really wanted to make it work and get a tone that I could really enjoy.
As it turned out the answers were fairly simple, and it was all about simplicity
1) pick one amp head and cab just like I would have to in the real world and learn them instead of trying exotic stereo combinations of heads and cabs (ended up liking a 59 Fender Bassman amp sim into a 4x12 Marshal 1960AX Cab Sim)
2) Pick realistic mics that I would actually use in the real world so I'm now micing 1 cab with a simulated SM57 and simulated Condensor and playing with the on/off axis configurations to get it right and blending the two together. Once again no crazy stereo exotic mic setups on multiple cabs through different amps.
3) REAL PEDALS. Again real simple. I went out and bought a Compressor, Distortion and delay pedal. The sound is more natural than the pedal sims in GTR 3.5 and seems to just work. Again no crazy 12 pedal exotic wierd stereo set ups
4) Guitar set up. I really went to town experimenting with Pickup Choice, Pickup height, string choice and action height and finally tone and volume levels on the git (What they don't have to be at ten all the time!) and found a setup that really works with the amp, cab, mic and stomps choice I have comitted to
After this experience, I think amp/cab sims can be really cool tools, but perhaps they give you too many choices and too much tweakability. In the end that takes away from creativity and focus on good sound with minimum fuss.
Ultimately when I tried to think like I would have to in the real world (ie I cant have 32 amps, 29, cabs, 14 different mics and 26 stomps to choose form) and treat it as if I were choosing: 1 amp, 1 cab that I have to live with, and how I would then go about micing that set up in the real world, adding a two or three real pedals and just making it work, and BAM it does work
Now if only I could play worth a shit
I've been playing around with waves GTR 3.5 for about a year and couldn't get it to sound how I wanted, but since I don't have the space or the recording room or really the justification to spend a bunch of money on real amp heads and cabs (I don't gig and have already spent tons on gear for recording) I wanted to make it work
After putting a lot of work into major re setup of my guitar including new p'ups, pots, nut, bridge and tailpiece I really wanted to make it work and get a tone that I could really enjoy.
As it turned out the answers were fairly simple, and it was all about simplicity
1) pick one amp head and cab just like I would have to in the real world and learn them instead of trying exotic stereo combinations of heads and cabs (ended up liking a 59 Fender Bassman amp sim into a 4x12 Marshal 1960AX Cab Sim)
2) Pick realistic mics that I would actually use in the real world so I'm now micing 1 cab with a simulated SM57 and simulated Condensor and playing with the on/off axis configurations to get it right and blending the two together. Once again no crazy stereo exotic mic setups on multiple cabs through different amps.
3) REAL PEDALS. Again real simple. I went out and bought a Compressor, Distortion and delay pedal. The sound is more natural than the pedal sims in GTR 3.5 and seems to just work. Again no crazy 12 pedal exotic wierd stereo set ups
4) Guitar set up. I really went to town experimenting with Pickup Choice, Pickup height, string choice and action height and finally tone and volume levels on the git (What they don't have to be at ten all the time!) and found a setup that really works with the amp, cab, mic and stomps choice I have comitted to
After this experience, I think amp/cab sims can be really cool tools, but perhaps they give you too many choices and too much tweakability. In the end that takes away from creativity and focus on good sound with minimum fuss.
Ultimately when I tried to think like I would have to in the real world (ie I cant have 32 amps, 29, cabs, 14 different mics and 26 stomps to choose form) and treat it as if I were choosing: 1 amp, 1 cab that I have to live with, and how I would then go about micing that set up in the real world, adding a two or three real pedals and just making it work, and BAM it does work
Now if only I could play worth a shit
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