How to setup a band room for broadcast?

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I'm in my schools radio station staff and they have a room where they can have bands play. They have it setup so they can broadcast but they want to be able to record the bands as well.
I figure the best way to do this is have the comptuer, monitors, and mixer outside the room and have the band inside the room in headphones.
The other way i was thinking was having the mixer in the room as well as the headphones and mixer and let them controll everything and just send the line out to the computer and have the recording (they want to keep the comptuer out of this room).

any input as 2 how this could be setup is appreciated.

they have a 16channel mackie mixer, 3 line 6 rack modules for direct inputing instruments (two guitar and one bass) and an electronic drum set.
 
wang191 - definitely set up the recording gear in another room. With headphones you'll get the wrong mix - let alone be able to hear it over the band.

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JOhn
 
Is this possible?
The way i want to have the inputs go out to a recording unit pre-fader and then still let them control stuff in the room with their own mix settings?
Studio A is the broadcasting studio
studio b is the band room
the comptuer room would be a seperate room.

This is what i have in my proposal.

The band should be in Studio-B with the Line6 instrument processors and drum equipment. The first eight inputs will be used for this setup. Take a direct output from each channel, pre-fader, and send that to the computer room to an eight channel D/A converter which would then record to the computer. The Alesis monitors will be connected to the computer for monitoring the recording mix. This is also where the feed to the Studio-A for possible broadcasting will come from. In Studio-B the signals from the instruments into the mixer will go post-fader to the headphone amplifier, which will allow the band to mix their own sound in the room separate of the recording mix. This will allow for maximum recording versatility.
 
oh i forgot to mention...they are electronic drums.

edit: no i didnt. haha
 
If they need to control their monitor mix only then having the board in the live room is okay. But who is going to do the actual mix for broadcast? Or is the idea to mixdown the recording for later broadcast?

How are you going to power the different headphones? If you are using a headphone amp then you can still have the mixer in the control room and send it a few feeds from the Aux sends. Then the guys can control their own monitor mix from the headphone amp (depending on what you get).
 
What i'm trying to achieve is maximum flexablility.
I want to make it so that it is possible to record the band playing live, broadcast a live band, and be able to do both at the same time. The comptuer will be in a different room (possibly locked up). If the mixer is in that room as well and if there is a band that wants to practice or play live then they have no way to get to the mixer unless someone can give them access, which i doubt they will do on a regular basis. (not all djs have access to this room with the comptuer)
So i'm looking for a way to get the most versitile setup.

I don't know how much more equip i can ask them to buy.

we have a headphone amp
3 line6 processors
16channel mackie (not sure which model, but i know there are 4 busses and a 10? band eq for the output)
Alesis monitor 1s (active)
Comptuer(dont know the specs but suposedly it's good[i'll deal with that later])
 
what ever is mixed is what is going to be broadcast...unless we get something like the MOTU with 8 ins and send a mix from the output of the comptuer as it is recording

i think that way we can leave the mixer in the room to let them mess with that and just have someone working the comp and doing the real mix for broadcast and recording.
The band can listen in the room through their headphones and the alesis mk1s can be attached to the comptuer.
 
The bottom line is that no band can possibly mix themselves while playing and expect it to sound decent. If you want to do it right then put the mixer in another room and use the aux sends as monitor sends to the band.

Flexibility usually means compromise and you really have to decide what is more important. The ability to do 3 things half ass or do one thing well.
 
TexRoadkill said:
The bottom line is that no band can possibly mix themselves while playing and expect it to sound decent. If you want to do it right then put the mixer in another room and use the aux sends as monitor sends to the band.

Flexibility usually means compromise and you really have to decide what is more important. The ability to do 3 things half ass or do one thing well.
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Agreed.

We bought the furman system that allows a bunch of inputs, then connects to tiny remote mixers that one plugs their headphones into, and the musicians can make their own mix.

Four inputs, bass, drums, guitar and vocals. This way the guitarist can always hear himself, and the drummer can lower the vocals as not to be distracted. It works REALLY well in our experience.

But its not cheap :)
 
the only reason i'm interested in the band being able to control the mix is because i have my "band" practice down there and if the room with the comptuer is locked then we won't be able to turn on the mixer and get our volumes.

I really want to be able to get to the room and put the mixer in there and just do it the way it should be done...I'll probably get them to do that. It's still a little ways off though. I wanted to get some input though so that i can get a preliminary proposal.
 
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