how to record w/ these mics??

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hi,
I am going to record drum tracks for my first time, and what I have are: C1, sm57, AKG D112
Now, of course the d112 will be for kick drum, but what about 57? should I use it for snar and c1 for overhead? or C1 shouldn't even be used for drums??
 
A1A2 said:
Now, of course the d112 will be for kick drum, but what about 57? should I use it for snar and c1 for overhead?
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this sounds pretty good too me
 
oh, i forgot to mention, I am running those 3 mics into my mixer, then 2 outs into my soundcard. For editing purpose(in my PC), i think i should mix down 2 channels first, and leave one untouched before I send them into my soundcard. Which 2 should I mix first, and which one should I leave untouched?? or it's just something I will have to play with to figure out the best way?

thanks for your reply, Colossus
 
how many inputs does your card have, and what kind of inputs does it have? and what kinds of outputs (including alt outs) does you rmixer have?
 
it's a Behringer 2004A mixer, and the soundcard is an Audiophile 2496. So,


Soundcard: 2 of the 1/4" ins , and 2 other I don't-know-what-inputs (they might be SP/DF or something like that)

Mixer: 2 main 1/4" outs, 2 alt outs, 8 inserts(dunno what they do neither)

oh, boy, do I sound limited or what? lol
 
i have the 2004 aswell, not sure what you mean by mixing two channels first and leaving one untouched, but utilize the pfl function on the mixer to set your pres right, then get all your levels acurate together.... you can go two ways with the set up, and what i would do is pan the bass drum hard left, and the other two mics hard right, and record them to seperate channels giving you some leway in mixdown, as your not really gonna achieve a great stereo effect with this micing strategy..... secondly unless you own an outboard compressor or gate don't bother with the inserts, these are for adding effects to the mix pre-fader... you can use them as direct outs, but then you miss out on using the e.q. . these inserts are mostly for effects but can be used as direct outs if you need to send to more than four channels... hope this helps some!~
 
what you said about panning 2 mic hard right and kick hard left is what I meant by mixing 2 mics and leaving one untouched.

The only outboard I have is a RNC. I guess I will probably be using the insert for that, right?

How should I go about micing the drum tho? One on snare, one overhead, and one kick, then pan them hard left/right like you said? Or should I pan snare one side, and kcik+overhead the other way?

And is there is thread or site you know of discussing this type of setup for micing a drum set?

Thanks
 
in the good ole days of 4-track recording, drums were recorded using only two tracks, one was a large condenser to capture the whole kit, and the other was a dynamic on kick. or sometimes 3 tracks with two overheads and one kick. you can get a pretty good sound with the mics you have, it just might not suit every style of music.
first make sure the drums are well tuned and sounding as good as possible, then use the c1 as ambient/overhead, the d112 on kick, and the sm57 on snare. but try using just the c1 and the d112 first and see if you like the sound. you could also use the sm57 on kick if you wanted to. it produces a tighter sound than the big thud of the d112. if you want to get a much better sound from a similar setup, all you need is another large condenser mic, preferably another c1. then you can use those two as overheads panned hard left and right, the d112 on kick, and the sm57 on snare.
for the links you're looking for go to:
http://prorec.com/prorec/articles.nsf/files/7CA9E089FD033AE78625699C006D968A
or
http://prorec.com/prorec/articles.nsf/files/B911B982769BDA69862569D9007E1692

adriano
 
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