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VirtualSamana
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I want to a get good feedback sound. I don't have an amp that will wail for me. I do have a POD. Is there a way to get feedback sound from the red kidney bean?
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Krystof01
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Yeah, sell the POD, save some more money and get a nice vintage tube amp.
I have a POD so I ain't anti POD but if you want good 'real' feedback IN MY OPINION you won't get it from the POD.
I have a POD so I ain't anti POD but if you want good 'real' feedback IN MY OPINION you won't get it from the POD.
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good answer.
Sonixx
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hello VirtualSamana,
looks like all you'll get from some is sarcasm...
here's how to do it if you're recording.
Setup:
Guitar => POD Guitar In
*POD-Unprocessed Guitar Out => Volume Pedal => => Distortion Pedal (Optional) => Amp
POD Out => Mixer or Recorder
*my PODPro has an Unprocessed Guitar Out that i use to drive the AMP and i'm not sure if a POD has the same. if not, you'll need to split the guitar signal without degrading it and drive the POD and Volume Pedal. the Amp is only used to drive the Guitar into feedback and is not recorded. no need to concern yourself with it's actual tone quality as all you care about is its ability to get the feedback and feedback type, when you want it.
when you want Feedback, run the Volume Pedal up and drive the Amp into feedback. a smaller Amp works best for this setup. i use a Champ. also, touching the head of the Guitar to the AMP or speaker cabinet will get it to feedback sooner and will hold it longer. back away or use the volume pedal and lower the volume to come out of feedback gracefully.
you'll need to set the Amp Volume and tone to get the type of feedback you want. normally you'll want the Treble down to keep it from squeeling.
once you've learned this technique, you'll find you can place feedback where you want it and with the control you need.
regards,
-kp-
looks like all you'll get from some is sarcasm...
here's how to do it if you're recording.
Setup:
Guitar => POD Guitar In
*POD-Unprocessed Guitar Out => Volume Pedal => => Distortion Pedal (Optional) => Amp
POD Out => Mixer or Recorder
*my PODPro has an Unprocessed Guitar Out that i use to drive the AMP and i'm not sure if a POD has the same. if not, you'll need to split the guitar signal without degrading it and drive the POD and Volume Pedal. the Amp is only used to drive the Guitar into feedback and is not recorded. no need to concern yourself with it's actual tone quality as all you care about is its ability to get the feedback and feedback type, when you want it.
when you want Feedback, run the Volume Pedal up and drive the Amp into feedback. a smaller Amp works best for this setup. i use a Champ. also, touching the head of the Guitar to the AMP or speaker cabinet will get it to feedback sooner and will hold it longer. back away or use the volume pedal and lower the volume to come out of feedback gracefully.
you'll need to set the Amp Volume and tone to get the type of feedback you want. normally you'll want the Treble down to keep it from squeeling.
once you've learned this technique, you'll find you can place feedback where you want it and with the control you need.
regards,
-kp-
GONZO-X
Well-known member
I'M NOT A POD USER!
but i play one on tv......
i used to use a rack mount effects unit, and on occasion would simply crank my studio monitors loud enough, and stand right in front of them, as i tracked using direct sounds.......
i was able to coax usable feedback from that setup........
but probably the best idea is sonixx idea, of splitting the sound and putting it through an honest to god amp.......
which, in retrospect, seems to be defeating the purpose of using a pod, unless you just prefer the sound of it......
personally, if i had a pod, i'd take a feed off of it directly to hard drive, then take a split signal and send it to a small amp (boogie is my preference) set up for a completely original sound, blending the pod sound with it's own, and mic that, and then blend the 2 tones together (probably with some phase inversion between the 2 tracks.....)
but i play one on tv......
i used to use a rack mount effects unit, and on occasion would simply crank my studio monitors loud enough, and stand right in front of them, as i tracked using direct sounds.......
i was able to coax usable feedback from that setup........
but probably the best idea is sonixx idea, of splitting the sound and putting it through an honest to god amp.......
which, in retrospect, seems to be defeating the purpose of using a pod, unless you just prefer the sound of it......
personally, if i had a pod, i'd take a feed off of it directly to hard drive, then take a split signal and send it to a small amp (boogie is my preference) set up for a completely original sound, blending the pod sound with it's own, and mic that, and then blend the 2 tones together (probably with some phase inversion between the 2 tracks.....)
Sonixx
New member
Vintage Amp Owner and proud POD user...
hi GONZO-X,
i'm not sure but i believe you missed my point
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i'm not recording the amp. it's just there for feedback creation. if you've never tried this, give it a try. once it's set up correctly, you'll find you can create feedback on demand, even with moderately distorted tone (recorded tone not the feedback tone) and get it when and where you want it. you can also use this technique with two amps. one that's recorded and the other for feedback creation. the feedback amp's tone can sound like crap because it's not recorded.
regards,
-kp-
hi GONZO-X,
i'm not sure but i believe you missed my point
:i'm not recording the amp. it's just there for feedback creation. if you've never tried this, give it a try. once it's set up correctly, you'll find you can create feedback on demand, even with moderately distorted tone (recorded tone not the feedback tone) and get it when and where you want it. you can also use this technique with two amps. one that's recorded and the other for feedback creation. the feedback amp's tone can sound like crap because it's not recorded.
regards,
-kp-
GONZO-X
Well-known member
SONIXX!
I GOTCHA!
my point, i guess, is that i can't imagine going to the trouble to set up a rig, to capture that live feel, with volume and feedback, by going through the pod....
i'd just get the real thing!
too each his own, i guess i could see that, if you already had the pod, and you liked to use a lot of different voices, you could easily come up with a buttload of sonic palletes, using the pod......
so i guess, even a stereo amplifier, through the right set of speakers, could elicit the feedback that is generated from the gain of the pod......
as long as it was loud enough, any rig could probably do it. even stereo speakers........
I GOTCHA!
my point, i guess, is that i can't imagine going to the trouble to set up a rig, to capture that live feel, with volume and feedback, by going through the pod....
i'd just get the real thing!
too each his own, i guess i could see that, if you already had the pod, and you liked to use a lot of different voices, you could easily come up with a buttload of sonic palletes, using the pod......
so i guess, even a stereo amplifier, through the right set of speakers, could elicit the feedback that is generated from the gain of the pod......
as long as it was loud enough, any rig could probably do it. even stereo speakers........
BBB
Member
Also, it helps prevent hearing loss and complaining neighbors. The POD will generate (subjectively) decent tones and a small amp can generate feedback at relatively low volumes or at least at meduim volumes for short durations.
Apparently Slash used a technique similar to this when recording a GnR album. They had his Marshall blaring full blast in an iso room and had a small amp in the control room. Slash was playing in the control room and would kick in the small amp only when he needed feedback.
Apparently Slash used a technique similar to this when recording a GnR album. They had his Marshall blaring full blast in an iso room and had a small amp in the control room. Slash was playing in the control room and would kick in the small amp only when he needed feedback.