how to create vocal stutters?

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Does anyone know of a method or way to create vocal stutters (a la BT) within Cakewalk? If not, does anyone know of a program or different sequencer to do this with?

robyn
 
is this something that would require more than a simple delay effect? of course, you could also record the audio and stutter that.......
 
well--

as far as the delay effect goes, theoretically, if you could get the delay down to a couple ms, i guess that would work, but it'd be hard to control.

granted, i could just manipulate the audio waveform and repeat part of a single syllable over and over again in succession, but that's a little awkward to do within proaudio.

apparently BT does it rather "easily" in protools. does anyone have any experience with protools and have a cakewalk way of doing that?
 
I believe that the effect you want can be created by suing a program/sequencer like fruity loops or Acid by inserting a sample/wav and cutting it short. Then adding the last sample at the end creating a hhhhhello effect. the critical element is using a sample based sequencer like fruity loops in which the sequencer can cut off the samples and let the last one play through. it is possible to do this in acid by cutting the individual samples copying the piece you want to repeat and then again making the last sample play through.
There are probably many other ways to do this.......
 
good ideas, kennedy! yes, a step sequencer like fruity loops will do this....you could probably get away with one sample, since fruity will allow you to cut the sample before it gets retriggered....(i think so, anyway...haven't used fruity loops much lately)...acid should be able to do this too.....however, then you'd have to import the wav file into cakewalk....SONAR, on the other hand, will do a lot of what acid does....

BTW haven't a clue what BT is. :)
 
most samplers have monophonic sample ability in that when a new key or the same key is struck the sample playing stops and the new sample begins. this is how they do it in hip-hop.

i can tell you're lying 'cause when you're replying you stutter stutter st-st-st stutter stutter.
---joe (stutter)

after you back in up then stop and drop-drop drop drop it like it's hot.
wa-woble woble wa-woble woble and drop it like it's hot
---juvenile (back that thang up)
 
You might want to try setting up a loop in PA on the point you want stuttered, Play it out of a send, rout back into a record and record it on a new track. Then just drag it where you want it.

I don't know if it will work for you I guess it would depend on your equipment?

Just a thought.
 
yeah, i did think of using fruity loops set at a high tempo and just have the sample cut itself each time (the monophonic ability crosstudio was talking about). however, on a certain song that i'm doing, it's going to have quite a lot of stutters and that'd be a lot of importing/exporting, which isn't really a problem, but i'd just like to be able to streamline the process a bit.

two real quick questions:
i'm using pa9. does anyone know how strong or worthwhile sonar's loop generator is? i was thinking about upgrading for that reason, but if it is no better than fruityloops, then i may not.

next, does anyone have any experience to do a comparison of fruityloops and rebirth? any thoughts on which is better/worse?

thanks all.
robyn

p.s. j--BT is Brian Transeau. He's a big electronica artist and producer really popular especially in Europe. He does a lot of computer stuff too.
http://users.digidesign.com/user_story.cfm?story_id=99
 
I have played around with rebirth demo only but I found it to be more difficult than fruity and a lot more expensive. To easily produce the effect you wanted a sampler of any kind will do it if you just hit the key quickly in successioin. I often use giga sampler to play a sample and cut it short and use the recorded part in a live recording situation. drum rolls are particularly useful this way.
If you really want something that does everything you can imagine i would try REAKTOR. It is extraordinary and you can create in allmost anything out there. Its not cheap but I think it is the wave of the future. think Bjork...........
I haven't upgraded to sonar because my sound card doesn't support the new wdm drivers in 98se so I would have to upgrade the OS and then I might be able to take advantage of the new stuff. I find cakewalk to be the buggiest crashiest component in my whole system so their latest product gives me some trepidation about what will happen when i use it.. PA 9 still crashes mysteriously from time to time so god only knows what the new super bloated version will do. Also i have seen a lot of posts about different problems.

Fruity loops is the most cheapest product I have but they really support it and the new versions always have a signifigant new feature. Perhaps they wil eventually find a way to run it inside cakewalk like the cubase stuff VST and the like
 
first, thanks for all your responses everyone!

kennedy (or anyone, for that matter)--in fruityloops, i was messing around with long loops at high speeds. however, i saw someone else use the piano roll, but they just had very short note lengths in succession. do you know how they did that?

let me explain a bit further to clear up my ambiguous writing. say i have a 16 beat loop at 140 bpm. in order for me to have a sample start in between, say arbitrarily, beats 4 and 5, i'd have to bump up the loop to 32 beats at 280 bpm and then i could use beat 9.

however, i saw someone putting little lines in between beats, so that they could fit up to 4 notes in one beat. however, fruityloops wouldn't let me do it. i could create a note that was only 1/4 of a beat long, but it still would only let me have one of those per full beat. any suggestions?

robyn
 
you're over my head..... I don't have the piano roll full version of fruity and alot of the examples use this feature. You are on the right track speeding up the tempo but I really would suggest getting hooked to the fruity loops message board where the real fruitys hang out....I would think that a piano roll would enable one to put as many notes as necessary up to 64th notes.
 
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