How might I improve this for local radio?

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No more feedback needed on this.

The consensus seems to be the same across the board, and ya know for the first time, last night, I realized this song was 6 minutes long. :D

Thank you guys for all the feed back. I'm gonna hold out a little longer, and see what I come up with. And I don't mean I'm going to start writing for radio either! I never meant to imply anything like that.
But those local shows could be a great way to find musicians to play with, etc...

We can let this thread go now.

You guys Rock!

Tom
 
You asked for a beating... okay, here's your beating.

I think it's pretty dumb sailing off to a local radio station with this tune tucked under your arm, and here's why:

1 The music and lyrics are too interesting for radio.

2 The song's too long for radio. You manage to sustain interest and musicality for almost six minutes, but both you and I know that radio stations don't like songs that long.

You have, however, come up with a beautiful, strong piece of music here. The quality of the recording is excellent, and the sound you get on those guitars is spectacularly attractive. You sing really well. I enjoy that little echo on the vocals you run through the left side. There are lovely surprises too - 3.45 and 'ecstasy'. And now you're looking for suggestions? LOL

Well, okay, if I'd been your producer, I'd've asked you to try a slightly different ending. When that electric guitar comes in at 4.35, I really want it cut loose (in the spirit of the message in the lyrics of the song). When the chorus comes in, that's fine - just keep repeating it with the guitar reaching and flying over top of it. I didn't want the song to come back down like it did. You could even have that cunning two-part harmony on 'dry' and then cut loose again at 5.21. See how lucky you are I'm not your producer? :D :D

What a good, good song, Sluice. Really good work.
 
Hey, this thread isn't going to die until I get my 2 100th of a dollar in. :D

Now that I've done that, I have nothing new to say. I'll just echo that you don't have near the chance of getting airplay with this one as you do with Rhythms and/or Chrysalis.
 
Tom... don't get us wrong... IMO most of us here love "Dry"... there are a couple of issues; one that's been given, and one not mentioned:

Again, IMO the mix "is" a little mid-heavy... but still really good in comparison to stuff I hear on the "local" show (2hrs) here. By all means, a good enough mix for this type of show. However, if you wanted to put your best mixed song out there -- JMHO it's "Chrysalis", no question.

The other issue no-body seems to have said: it really depends what type of "radio" or radio show you're submitting it to. Is it a local show, like "homegrown" or something? If so... hell yeah... submit that sucker! The mix is above par for what most other bands can do, and the song rocks. There's lots of good, interesting music on these local-type shows.

Then again, if it's just a station that occasionally puts local stuff on... nothing like Homegrown... it's pretty easy to see that they'd be more interested in the cookie cutter stuff.

Here's a vote for "DO IT!" :D
 
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The other issue no-body seems to have said: it really depends what type of "radio" or radio show you're submitting it to. Is it a local show, like "homegrown" or something?

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Ahhh, I wasn't very specific there was I. Ya, I already know I can get college play cuz I've played on those stations in a former band. No big deal there really. But there's a major station that plays a 3 hour show that's all indie and local stuff. I'm just not sure if they'll play something if it's not a band. By "home gown" you mean homerec'n I assume. But I've had friends do really well with that station (one of them is the subject of "Rhythms") so it would be nice to pull it off, ya know? We'll see...

Anyway, thanks once again fellas. You've helped more than you know.

Tom
 
Sophisticated stuff. I like it.

The guitars are odd sounding. Thin I suppose would describe the sound, I'm talking about the electrics. (I think, I mean the intro picking stuff. I'm not sure if it is a DI'd acoustic or an electric) The acoustic lead stuff sounds good. With the rhythm guitars beefed up a bit it should work out ok.

The sibilence doesn't bother me.

Sure is a long song... :D

Nothing wrong with that though.

Good music SLuiCe.
 
SLuiCe said:
But I've had friends do really well with that station (one of them is the subject of "Rhythms")
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Rhythms has a subject??? :eek: :o :p

Dude... I've listened to that thing, like, 50 times now and I still have no idea what it's aboot. :p I always try to do that,... you know,.. write really "deep" lyrics that are hard to grasp.. but it never quite works... by the time I'm done it's just the same ol' simplistic drivel... :cool: but I've noticed that most (if not all) of your stuff is really "obscure" topically. I don't think that's bad for radio though,.. there was a time back in the early 90's when everything was obscure lyrically and nobody knew what anyone was talking aboot.. :p

So anywhoo.. what is it aboat...? :D

WATYF
 
Rhythms has a subject???
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WATYF- It's about my friend Dave who over-dosed on something (I still don't know what- and don't think I want to know) this past Memorial weekend. He was a drummer (...rhythms...) I played with in a few projects in the early 90's, and even moved out of state with to chase that big dream down. He was gifted, and we learned a lot from each other. A real connection. He went on to get signed in a band called 6Gig that was just starting to get big...
I had hung out with him until 5 in the morning when he got back from tracking his drums for the new CD with Faith No More's producer in California. He lectured me that I should be doing something more with music, and it hit home. As the album was being mastered, he quit the band. I suspect because it was just not really his music. Maybe too commercial, maybe too unreal. He was a very real person with a lot too say. And people loved him for it. I wish I had known he had quit them though. I would have snatched him up in a heart beat.

but I've noticed that most (if not all) of your stuff is really "obscure" topically.
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Believe me, I don't want it to be obscure. It's just that, I try to incorporate the words that also express the feeling, not just the facts. And this I think can make things difficult. I still have a lot to learn. Who doesn't? Except maybe Crawdad! (I'll get it for that :D ) I agree with you about the 90's though. I'd personally rather know what someone is trying to say, then hear a hook. You've got guys like Maynard James Keenan who has I'm sure something to say, but he's got this Morrison-esque obscurity going on that I find disappointing. But I still love it. Then there's guys like Dave Mathews who seem to have the perfect balance. Anyway, I'm rambling. Coffee empty. Time to go to work.

Thanks for asking man. It was food for thought for me today.
 
geez dude... that's some profound stuff... :eek: I never would have guessed it was about anything like that.





I just figured it was aboot a chick... :D



trust me... when I start posting my stuff, you'll see what I mean.. I got this whole "Gee.. I sure wish I had something profound to say" thing goin' on... :cool:

P.S. I totally agree about DMB.. he's got some great lyrics, and they don't get too obscure.

WATYF
 
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