grn
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How is the quality itself on these drums? Is this a good sound or should I do something different? Any help is appreciated.
grn
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please... how can I improve?
please... how can I improve?
systmovadown
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well let me ask you,.....
what type of music do you play the most?
personally the bass drum i dont like....its toooooo boomy....it sounds very jazzy...unless ur a jazz player of course.
what type of music do you play the most?
personally the bass drum i dont like....its toooooo boomy....it sounds very jazzy...unless ur a jazz player of course.
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MixMister
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hmm
I find with drums you can get a lot more out of them just by hitting them right. I remember being in a studio with our regular drummer checking the drums and they sounded terrible. Later on that day a professional studio musician came in and tested the drums and they sounded great just because he knew how to hit the drum properly. You sound a bit sloppy with the kick and that will make recording it very difficult. I've heard of a method recently where someone will record each drum seperately while listening to a click track. That way until you get better at playing the whole kit you can still make great drum tracks by playing each drum on its own. You also don't get any bleed in the microphones from other drums. Just an idea. Overall though I didn't think the sound was too bad and could definately be usable for recording a song. Good luck!
I find with drums you can get a lot more out of them just by hitting them right. I remember being in a studio with our regular drummer checking the drums and they sounded terrible. Later on that day a professional studio musician came in and tested the drums and they sounded great just because he knew how to hit the drum properly. You sound a bit sloppy with the kick and that will make recording it very difficult. I've heard of a method recently where someone will record each drum seperately while listening to a click track. That way until you get better at playing the whole kit you can still make great drum tracks by playing each drum on its own. You also don't get any bleed in the microphones from other drums. Just an idea. Overall though I didn't think the sound was too bad and could definately be usable for recording a song. Good luck!
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xfinsterx
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sounds like youre playing in a small bedroom with carpeted floors.
Would that be correct?
Would that be correct?
grn
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I am playing in a small bedroom with carpeted floors. How can I alleviate any boxy sounds and make it sound more natural? There's not much more I can do with Mic placement... well maybe there is.
I am playing in a small bedroom with carpeted floors. How can I alleviate any boxy sounds and make it sound more natural? There's not much more I can do with Mic placement... well maybe there is.
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xfinsterx
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well it sounds like you hands are tied. 
I guess all i can recommend is trying to post some pictures of the room and kit and mic placement and mics so we can try to help a little more.
If thats too much of a hassle i understand though.
This fella here is going through alot of the problems you are.
I recommend reading through this thread if youve got time.
https://homerecording.com/bbs/showthread.php?t=129173
I guess all i can recommend is trying to post some pictures of the room and kit and mic placement and mics so we can try to help a little more.
If thats too much of a hassle i understand though.
This fella here is going through alot of the problems you are.
I recommend reading through this thread if youve got time.
https://homerecording.com/bbs/showthread.php?t=129173
grn
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I'll try to get some pictures up if you really think they will help. Right now the drums are on the carpet with a couch and thick curtains behind it. The kit is a Pearl and I have an SM57 on the kick and a SP B1 on the snare. That's it.
grn
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btw, we want an alternative rock sound.
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xfinsterx
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well first of all id recommend getting another sm57 for the snare.
Then use that sp b1 on a boom stand over the top of the kit.
that should double up your sound quality thus far.
57 kick, 57 snare, sp b1 as a mono overhead mic.
Also, id clear that room out, or put that kit in a room that isnt so congested with couches and capet and curtains etc etc....
Then use that sp b1 on a boom stand over the top of the kit.
that should double up your sound quality thus far.
57 kick, 57 snare, sp b1 as a mono overhead mic.
Also, id clear that room out, or put that kit in a room that isnt so congested with couches and capet and curtains etc etc....
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caryindy
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Does your equipment limit your recording to only two tracks?
You may try the 57 on the snare and the B1 out in front of the kit.
If not, I'd sugest getting a kick drum mic. You could put the 57 on the snare and use the B1 as an overhead. I really think you'd be happier buying a kick drum mic as opposed to buying another 57.
You may try the 57 on the snare and the B1 out in front of the kit.
If not, I'd sugest getting a kick drum mic. You could put the 57 on the snare and use the B1 as an overhead. I really think you'd be happier buying a kick drum mic as opposed to buying another 57.
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xfinsterx
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I figured bying another 57 would be a better idea because he would be able to use it on other things besides a kick drum.
Ive gotten some pretty damn good sounds micing a kick with a 57 too.
Ive gotten some pretty damn good sounds micing a kick with a 57 too.
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caryindy
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xfinsterx - Yeah man, I agree with that idea. I hope I didn't come across like I was saying your idea was incorrect. I recorded a full cd with a 57 on kick also, but I remember how much happier I was when I bought a kick drum mic.
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xfinsterx
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caryindy said:
Naw man! lol
I aint mad.
My first kick drum mic, i felt the same way bro.
grn
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here's the setup guys... there's only a bed (futon that is now a couch) and a desk. I have thrown everything else away (there's a computer on the desk). I have a shure sm57, a sp b1, and two oktava's. right now I can record 4 inputs, but I haven't gotten my two other cables I ordered yet, so I want to get a good sound with the SM57 on kick, the SP B1 on snare, and the two oktava's as overheads (later on). the bed is behind the drums to stop reflections and the room is pretty isolated as far as reflections go. but they are drywall. I can maybe put some blankets up if you think that might help? I have also recorded a new test.... here it is...
I APPRECIATE ANY HELP! once I get the drums I'll be happy.
I APPRECIATE ANY HELP! once I get the drums I'll be happy.
grn
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well this is very frustrating. here is a third clip. tell me if this is ANY improvement. please. clip is short and to the point.
grn
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FattMusiek
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Putting blankets up would only make it sound more damp. I have my drums set up in a damp sounding room too, but after experimenting with different mic placements, I was able to get a pretty decent sound.
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rweiss
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Dude, tighten the snares up a bit, probably the bottom head too.. and crank the top one up while you're at it! ...get the snare to be a bit tighter, then throw a bunch of compression on that sucker, after you EQ to the sound you want.
Kick sounds decent, sounds kinda artificial, needs a bit more attack and longer thud, I guess. Hi-hat (and snare probably) could use some high's...
Bleh, it's real late.
...get the snare to be a bit tighter, then throw a bunch of compression on that sucker, after you EQ to the sound you want. Kick sounds decent, sounds kinda artificial, needs a bit more attack and longer thud, I guess. Hi-hat (and snare probably) could use some high's...
Bleh, it's real late.