How do i conect a 12chn mixing board to a 414 portastudio

[Salvadore]

Ok i have a tcsam 414 i just bought a mixing board 12chns which is about 12 yrs old im guessing. ok so heres the deal i would like to know if i could hook the 4trk to the mixing board and use all the channels on a mixing board to mic insturments. I think im supose to hook it to the sub in but im not sure what to do or where tp hook what plus the sub in jack is smaller than any jacks on the mixing board.

 

[DALtune]

There is a good chance I'll be talking out of my ass here...

Does your mixer have sub outs? I kinda thinking a board with 4 group mixing, meaning you can assign any of the channels to a specific group.

e.g. Drums mic channel 1-5 group to 1
Guitars channel 6-7 group to 2
Bass direct to channel 8 group 3
Vocals 9-11 group 4
This would be for a live record. You can breack that down. Take the group direct outs into each channel on the 414 and hit rec. It will probably take some time to get all the mixes right if you do it live.
There I go rambling...

What was the question?

 

[Schmoe]

Have a 414 myself, and have some "problems" too. Your question, you can take the out of the 12 track and plug it into the sub in on the 414. You control the level with the master fader. This is for using it live. For recording, you'll have to take the out of the 12 track and plug it in to one of the tracks on the 414. Like sub-mixing, you'll have to get all the levels and sound the way you want on the 12 track and then record on a 414 track. Once you do this, you can't go back. It's a one time shot. So practice a few times to get it right, watch your levels. Shouldn't peak no more than +2 on the 414. The meters on this unit are as fast, so some of the peaks on say a kick track might peg the board at +6 and above, you will get CLICKS. Trust me on this, been there done that. With analog, you can record "a little hot," but not too much. You may need some adapters, go to Radio Shack, they got it all. One word on using XLR's on the 414: You can't generally just plug a mic with an XLR cable into a 1/4" jack on a 4-track or mixer, even with a properly wired adapter. That's because the mic will almost certainly have a lower impedance than the input of what you're plugging it into, and that means that unless you correct things with an impedance matching transformer, it will sound like junk. Fortunately these things are available for less than $15 at Radio Shack (you want #274-016), and adapt the XLR plug to 1/4" at the same time.

 

[Grizzly]

I use a Behringer 2642 which is a 4 bus board. When recording on site I hook it to a Taz424 by way of the aux outs 1-2 3-4 buy using the line ins on the Taz. I also hook a Taz RW5000 to the main mix for CD stereo for back up, and use RW disk in the same way you use cassette tapes. I connect my Alesis to the direct outs for 8 track recording. So as you can see the options are nearly endless. It's fun to experiment. So go ahead and try it you can't hurt it.


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[PannyDeters]

The most common way to use a mixer with a 414 or other 4 track is to run RCA's out of them mixer into your SUBins.

This is used to "submix" onto a track. You could assign this to any track (use bus, pan hard left of right) and use the Master Fader to control volume. Then you have 3 more tracks to use.

I used to to submix drums on a mixer, recorded to track 4, bass on T3, Guitar on T2 and vocals overdubbed to T1.

If it is a 4bus mixer that means you have four paths to send, one to each track. So you could assign certain mixer channels to each of the four busses.