How did you start home recording ?

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If only for a moment.....
How did you get into home recording ? What sort of things gave you that final push ? Was it a well thought through process or was it more gradual, almost without any definite start point ?
What sort of problems have you encountered and would you rather record at home or in a commercial studio ?
Are you doing recording as a job or as a hobbyist and do you ever record other people ? If so, what do they think of your results ?
Why do you record at home ?
Fire away folks !
 
I was in a band in my mid-late teens and we won a 2 day trip to a studio.
That was fantastic for a few reasons. We wouldn't have had enough money to do that ourselves, and it gave me a glimpse of this whole new world behind the window.
I spent the first day being part of a band and the second day being aspiring assistant engineer.

Luckily the studio was youth focussed and the engineer was more than happy to answer questions and what not.

A year on we were trying to do a new demo record. Quality wasn't especially important to us so we figured I'd be able to do it on an old second hand computer.
We had a silver shure. (545?), electric kit, and a soundblaster with a line input.
Needless to say it sounded awful, but the techniques weren't too bad.

Anyway, the band split and I carried on reading and upgrading.

I went through a few setups. Behringer mixer with terratec EWS88MT, Digi 001 (why?), presonus firepod (should have kept it), digi 003, and now my current motu setup with outboard preamps.

The goal was never to achieve studio quality. I never bought into that myth. Funny enough I do now and that's what I aim for.
I know I'm still on a long road but I've had maybe ten songs on local radio and I'm consistently happy with what I produce.

The record in my sig was one year ago and we're working on the follow up now.
I couldn't write you a list of things I've learned or things I'll do differently; I don't feel like I've improved, but the mixes say otherwise so far.

I worked full time with the water service for a few years and after a while decided to quit and head to college.
I put two years in locally and one year in England finishing a degree.
Got first class honours and now I'd love to make a job out of this.

It certainly won't be easy alone, but optimistically I'm hoping to make half a salary working away and maybe get picked up for full time work through the work I'm doing on my own?

Who knows....

My limiting factor is that I'm working out of a standard sized garage so I avoid working with 'live' bands.
I tend to work towards acoustic singer/songwriters who need backing music written and arranged for them.
That affords me the right to request writing credits then it's in my interests to help with promotion and airplay.

Thanks for asking. :)
 
Doing demos for my early-80s bands for my originals. Used a boom box with built-in mics and a stereo cassette deck playing through a hifi. Record a (stereo) track, pop the cassette out of the boombox into the hifi, another cassette into the boombox, play the hifi loud, and overdub. After about the fourth pass it was sounding pretty bad!
Biggest hassle was the variation in speed between the boombox and the hifi cassette deck - had to retune on each pass!
 
Well ..... after being ban from every major recording studio in Los Angeles and New York I ............ I woke from my slumber and realized that I was only dreaming.

First whack at home recording started very early in my teens with tape and I got pretty good then progressed through out the years to the digital era of today.

Still plugging away!
 
The short story is I went to a few studios in 70's and 80's and wasn't satisfied with the results (although I DID learn a few things). Hung out at a studio for a few years and learned even more. Found out I liked tracking as much as playing and started acquiring gear which has lead me to the black hole I'm in now.
 
Really condensed version...

...my mom writes and sings, my bro writes and sings and a friend of the fambly thought we should record our stuff... and since my mom told this lady that I "could play just about anything" :eek: this lady friend kicked in $10K for us to buy some gear and get the ball rolling. True story.

I didn't know diddly shit about recording or gear...didn't know how to play drums or keys... she (my mom) said we'd do it and try and make her money back plus...

So off we went, happy and clueless, and made some really crappy sounding music. :D

I've been paying her back her $10K. :o
I'm down to about a grand now. :)
 
Pre-production, plain and simple. It cost a small fortune compared to the bang-for-the-buck these days in home rigs, but it was still a lot cheaper to drop a couple $k on some basics (usually going to a multi-track cassette, so nothing exotic by any stretch) than to blow through many $k while hashing out details in the studio.

Even crappy recordings could reveal major issues --
 
As a musician, it was always a dream to perform and record. Got a cheap reel to reel (still have it), plugged in a cheap mic, and started recording band practices.

Got a job, quit the band, got married.

Bought a computer, seen there was a mic input and plugged my guitar into it. Horrid sound. Got a copy of Sony Acid studio. Then bought a M-audio mobile pre usb and a cheap version of sonar. Found this web site and started to learn how to record. Developed a serious case of G.A.S.

The basic reason I like to record at home is because I do not have time for a band and like to write and record, as a hobby. The thought crossed my mind at one point to go into a proper studio and knock out a 4 song ep. but thought it better to spend the money on a home studio.

Now I'm thinking of going into a proper studio to record a couple songs, and watch what their doing, because I'm doing it wrong. I'm getting decent recordings, but nothing like what some of you guys are putting out.

I experiment with mic placement, and no matter where I put them it still sounds "live". especially drums.

I do not eq or put plug-ins on the tracks, that usually makes the tracks sound worse.

I have 3 sm57's I use to mic guitar cab, and drums, beta 52 for kik drum, samson co 2's for over head mic's, which I run thru a Art MPA Gold and then a Pro VLA 2, blue blue bird for vocals and acoustic guitar and a MXL v63 m for acoustic guitar.

I think I need to sink about a 1k into sound treatment, but not really sure how to go about that. Should I buy pre-build bass traps, or go about building my own? Reflections? My room is 10' x 12'. And I have a desk, 5 piece drum kit, bass rig, key board, 1/2 stack and 8 guitars in here. Sound treatment is my next project, along with building an iso cab for my gtr.

But no matter what, I'm having fun.
 
When I was 12 and was first learning guitar, I started doing this-

Doing demos for my early-80s bands for my originals. Used a boom box with built-in mics and a stereo cassette deck playing through a hifi. Record a (stereo) track, pop the cassette out of the boombox into the hifi, another cassette into the boombox, play the hifi loud, and overdub. After about the fourth pass it was sounding pretty bad!
Biggest hassle was the variation in speed between the boombox and the hifi cassette deck - had to retune on each pass!

almost immediately. Then I discovered cassette 4-tracks, but played in bands and recorded in "real" studios (some of which were just guys with gear in their basements, much like I am now). Started using digital standalones (poorly) 8-10 years ago, and pretty much started DAW recording when I signed up for this board.

I record my own stuff. It is godawful.
 
Well... I started because, I was tired of playing for just the 4 walls in what ever room I was in. Figured, if I could record the stuff, where I could listen to it afterwards, maybe I would become a better player. Can't say that it has worked, but it's been fun trying.
Cheers!!
 
In the 70s, my brother was in a band and he had purchased a 4 track reel to reel to do band demos. I learned the basics of tracking and gain-staging.

After I got married in the mid 80s, I bought a Tascam Porta3 cassette 4 track recorder, and started making home demos of classic rock tunes, trying to copy the original arrangements.

My first multitrack computer recording was in the 90s with Cakewalk 3 or 4. I remember waiting hours for a reverb to render to a vocal track using a P1 with 128 meg of RAM. Cool Edit was my first audio editor.

Currently I record to an Alesis HD24 and mix in the box with Studio One.
 
I started in my early teens, messing around with my Dad's reel-to-reel.

At that stage, my mind was set on playing, rather than recording. Playing was what I wanted to do, recording was an interesting sideline.

For years I went along like this, playing in bands and stuff. But the technological side of music always seem to fall to me. I was always interested in getting recordings of whatever band I was in, so I ended up with reel-to-reel recorders and crappy mikes just to hear what we sounded like.

Four-track cassette recorders emerged, and that's when the thrill of multi-track recording really started to kick in.

However, it wasn't until the nineties when digital recording emerged that I really caught the recording bug properly. I realised that for all these years, my brain had been saying 'perform', but my heart was really saying 'record'. The clues were all there, but I chose to ignore them.

Now I am happy as a pig in swill, focusing my energies on something that really appeals to me.

My studio is modest: effectively a firepod and a computer in the lounge room. But I get a lot of work that keeps me busy and allows me to buy nice shiny glittering things.
 
I did piano when I was a kid. Got to year 2. Got bored with having to get up at 5am and play scales and pass exams. Sucked at sight reading, but would happily sit at the piano all day and create things. Gave it up completely when I was about 12 due to the pressures of adolescent life and the strict nature of the way I had to learn to play. My father was (apparently) a concert violoinist at some stage, so he was very much a classical/it's done this way type of man. I revolted. Damn!:cursing:

Bought a guitar when I was 16 and stumbled around learning to play it and quickly worked out that none of my friends who were also stumbling around learning to play could play the guitar solo from Stairway to Heaven on their electrics, let along on my crappy nylon string acoustic like I could. Hmmm... maybe I could be good at this.

Like gecko, my father bought a new reel to reel so I snaffled the old one and started recording myself playing Rain Song one day on an acoustic guitar... can't remember what I used for a microphone... I think they had little square box things, from memory.

A few years and much gear later... electric guitars, bands, amplifiers etc.... I bought a Fostex 4 track cassette, then after that it was a Roland (the Headless Thompson Gunner) VS840 digital unit (digital! This was the game changer for me....) and I recorded two whole albums of instrumental guitar music as Armistice, without ever using a microphone (I cringe a bit when I listen to it these days, in terms of audio quality, but I did some nice stuff...) then onto a Yamaha AW4416 about 10 years ago, which cost a fortune - recorded another album and just recently onto the supercomputer/Reaper/interface and am doing the band thing now rather than instrumentals.

I've basically always created original music and always recorded it. And I always will...:laughings:
 
Back in the mid-late 60's I was in a band and two of the people owned 1/4" reel-to-reel machines. We started to write songs and record/bounce tracks betwwen the 1/4" machines. It was a thrill hearing songs we wrote and performed as we played the tracks back - and we got the bug.

In the early 70's I ended up in various studios (with 2" machine - anywhere from 4 track up to 16 track)as a member of various bands - and when I could, I paid attention to the engineers and asked as many questions as I could. Throuhout the 70's I worked in varous studios (either in a band or as a session player) and on a few occasion spent money to demo some soings I wrote. I often was less then thrilled with the lack of avaiable time (due to billing hours) and inconsistent quality).

Somewhere in the late 70's or maybe early 80's the first 4 track "cassette" recorders came out - I purchased a Fostex (for close to $1,000 - which was a lot at the time). At that point, I could take time to experiment with recording techniques, song arrangements, etc.) About 2 years later, 8 track 1/4" machines came out and I upgraded to 8 tracks.

Somewhere in the mid 80's Alesis came out with ADAT (8 track D/A) - so I purchased one and linked it with the 8 tracl 1/4 inch. Shortly after that Cackwalk came out with "software studio" so I bought that and linked it to my ADAT and my 1/4". Within months I got rid of the 1/4" and purchased another ADAT.

By the mid 90's I upgraded to a better version of Cakewalk, went with full computer recording and stoped using the ADATs (I still use hardware external processing). I am now on my 4th computer system. Naturally along the way, I've added an obscene number of mics, pre-amps additional processing gear, guitars, keyboards, etc. - but I'm probably still finanically ahead vs. if I would have been paying for commercial studio time over the last 30 plus years.
 
I can press record, but what I want to know is how do you pronounce RTZ?
 
My road to recording, I think, was like no one else's here. My brother was a big time audiophile in the 60's, with an open reel 4-tracker, Macintosh power amps, and Jensen Triaxials. I didn't do recording, but I did a fair amount of editing, and got good with scissors and scotch tape. I picked up guitar at 16, and was a runaway. I was inspired by a number of musicians, mostly psychedelic and British invasion, including mod folkies like Donovan and Bobby Dylan. Played for a living for about 12 years, first in bands, and then as a solo act or half of an acoustic duet. I did everything from weddings to biker bars, lounges, coffee hoses, and busking. Then I just sort of quit playing,went back to school, and barely picked up a guitar for 20 years or so. I became a married registered nurse.

Just before Christmas about 2003, my wife just stops out of the blue and says, "Richie, how long have you been playing guitar, anyway?" I said, "30 years, 12 of them for money". She says, "What do you think it would cost to produce your first album, and do the first run of production?" Of course, I had no clue. My brain was still back in the days of scissors, scotch tape, and vinyl. I shrugged my shoulders and said, "$25,000, plus $5,000 in high end guitars." She paused for a moment and said, "Oh- we can do that. I think you should go down to the guitar store, and buy the acoustic guitar and the electric guitar you would own in a perfect world. Try to keep it under $10,000. I love you dear- merry Christmas."

Oh my! Lions and Tigers and Fender Jaguars! My wife is an accountant. I give her all my money, and I don't ask what she does with it. She had been saving my money for over 10 years to do that! I think she figured I would go to a studio, and pay the nice audio wizards to wave their magic wands, and maybe I should have. But I was still in the land of scissors and scotch tape. I started spooking around on the internet and found... Homerec.com! I then did a bunch of things right. First, I bought a couple of very serious axes, and started playing every day. I got on the phone to every badass I'd ever worked with in the business, and signed them. Next, I hired a tracking engineer for a consultant, brought him into my ugly little basement with the $100 guitar, no mics, no gear, and paid him by the hour to tell me how to turn that basement into a place where he could work. I spent about 18 months studying digital recording, mics, compressors, preamps, FX, everything from standing waves to phase distortion. Then I spent a lot of money. Then I spent more money in a 2 phase major upgrade. In the end, the few hundred I paid that engineer saved me thousands.

Meanwhile, my wife became the executive producer, and handled artistic direction, work for hire agreements, copyright, residuals, mechanical royalties, and subcontracting legal and photography, production and distribution. Did I forget to mention- I'd marry her again in a heartbeat? Guide tracks and overdubs for 14 months, mixing and mastering were done by 2 old time homerec'ers, David L. Sparr (Littledog) and Sjoko at NGS Productions.

Today, I mostly record other people- acoustic early music, folk, Middle Eastern dance music, small ensemble classical. Anything that's fairly small, and mostly acoustic. But there's no doubt about this- My studio is built with the bones, blood, soul, and love of Homerec.com. Without the input of Blue Bear and Harvey Gerst, Mr. QQ, Track Rat, C7sus, and dozens of others, I would know nothing, and I would own nothing, except a gold pressed red book compliant master recorded by somebody else. And that is why I sometimes write those huge overview posts for noobs, because they can get, for free, a lot of what I paid for in cash.

In some ways, I am unique, here, I think, because I wasn't the kid with no experience and lots of his parents' money, who annoys everybody because he can afford to buy a Neumann he doesn't have a clue how to use. On the other hand, I started this with a $40,000-$50,000 budget, money that I worked for. I paid my dues in more low-paying gigs than I could ever remember, rode on Greyhound buses, and slept with drunk girls I'd never see again. I took my uppers, my downers, and everything in between. I recorded RC Cola commercials. I still have nightmares about "The Wedding Song", body perms, and leisure suits. Finally, I got to make my album my way, and sign a lot of copies at the release party. I learned that recording your own album is the hardest, slowest, and most expensive way to do it. It is also, by far, the most rewarding.

I think the dedication in the liner of my album "Reunion", says it all:

"I dedicate this album to my dear friend, Maureen Fleming, who taught me that dreams aren't something that just happen to you. You have to make them happen. And- to my beloved wife Susan, who makes dreams happen."
 
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