How can I setup addictive drums 2 to my roland td-15 and get no latency?

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I just recently got addictive drums 2 and would like to set them up correctly to my roland td-15 kit. As of right now I have my kit connected to my laptop through a midi cable and then have my headphones and iphone plugged into the td brain to jam along to music from my phone. Problem is, I'm getting latency issues and I'm not sure on how to fix it.

I have downloaded ASIO4ALL to my laptop but the problem is that I would then have to have my headphones connected to my laptop instead of the td brain and since Itunes doesn't support ASIO4ALL so that I could play music through itunes, this is not an option.

If you guys need anymore details then just ask away and I'll answer to the best of my ability.
 
Just to get it clear, up until now you've been practicing along with music that's on your iPhone, and you've been using the roland brain as a mixer, kinda?
So, the drum sound you'd hear would be the roland factory sounds, yeah?

If you want to hear the addictive drums sounds you'd want to plug the headphones in to your audio interface. You have an audio interface, right?
There will always be some amount of latency because the computer has to do some work, but with your buffer settings at 128/256 it should be enough to be noticeable.

Your DAW would need to be open with an addictive drums track set up and, probably, record armed so you can hear live feedback.
iTunes can be open at the same time playing out whatever music you want to jam to, as long as you've set the system audio device as your audio interface.

Is that helpful?
 
Yes, that is exactly what I have been doing for the past year now. I do not have an audio interface. Someone did suggest it to me but I really have no idea what the use of it would be in my situation. To be honest, I don't even know what they do. Also I do not have a DAW setup. I just have addictive drums 2 and that's it. I'm quite the noobie when it comes to this.
 
OK, thanks for the additional info.
I haven't used AD2 in standalone, but I presume it has midi in/out and will do a 'live' preview? If so, set it up to do that.
In the menus, look for settings or preferences - You're looking for audio device settings, specifically buffer size.
That will determine how much, or how little, latency there is.

Bigger buffer = less load on the computer + more latency.
Smaller buffer = more load on the computer + less latency.

With computers being so powerful these days, most people can get away with having the buffer at 128/256, which is relatively small, and not really notice latency.
Do that.

An audio interface is basically your sound card but better.
Better quality, more options, better drivers...Usually better latency. ;)
If you don't have one then that's fine. Plug your headphones into the computer's output.

As before, iTunes should happily play though the computer output alongside addictive drums.

If that's no good hopefully one of the windows guys will stop by and give you better info. :)
 
Unfortunately itunes won't play because of ASIO4ALL but I need it for addictive drums to get almost no latency. That's why I was hoping to keep my phone and headphones plugged into the TD brain itself and hopefully find a way to reduce the latency. If I got a audio interface, would it be possible to set it up this way with very low latency?
 
What's the latency like if you get rid of asio4all and just just the buffer settings as above?
 
So if I don't use ASIO4ALL and use "windows audio", the audio buffer size is 132 samples (3.0 ms) and if I use "direct sound" I get 64 samples (1.5 ms) but the audio is static
 
Fayt67 said:
So if I don't use ASIO4ALL and use "windows audio", the audio buffer size is 132 samples (3.0 ms) and if I use "direct sound" I get 64 samples (1.5 ms) but the audio is static
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Ok, cool. So where's the compromise?
Can you raise the number of samples to 256 or there about?
 
The cheapest interface of any use that I know of is this...M-Audio M-Track | Sweetwater.com

I don't know how good it is for latency, Bobbsy has one, might tell! Chances are it will be way better than a PC internal card since M-Audio drivers were always pretty good.

Personally I would not faff about. Get an interface.

Dave.
 
Steenamaroo said:
Ok, cool. So where's the compromise?
Can you raise the number of samples to 256 or there about?
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Yep I can raise it to 256 samples but there's latency (5.8 ms). I actually just realized that I can use ASIO4ALL but it gives me 432 samples (9.8 ms)
 
Fayt67 said:
Yep I can raise it to 256 samples but there's latency (5.8 ms). I actually just realized that I can use ASIO4ALL but it gives me 432 samples (9.8 ms)
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Is it perceivable, though? There will always be latency. The question is is it enough to make a difference to anything?
 
ecc83 said:
The cheapest interface of any use that I know of is this...M-Audio M-Track | Sweetwater.com

I don't know how good it is for latency, Bobbsy has one, might tell! Chances are it will be way better than a PC internal card since M-Audio drivers were always pretty good.

Personally I would not faff about. Get an interface.

Dave.
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I have been thinking about getting one but I'm not to sure if it'll be worth it. Let alone fix the problem that I am having
 
Fayt67 said:
I have been thinking about getting one but I'm not to sure if it'll be worth it. Let alone fix the problem that I am having
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It would fix the problems you're having because the interface would have better drivers and is designed for multiple I/O etc. :)
You should be able to get by with your sound card, though.
 
Steenamaroo said:
Is it perceivable, though? There will always be latency. The question is is it enough to make a difference to anything?
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To be honest, I can hardly tell when I'm just jamming along but when I jam along to music, I get out of sync fast and I can definitely notice it
 
It takes air 3ms to travel a meter, I think.
If that's right, you'd experience more latency at a live band practice! :eek:
 
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