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Hey, my friend and I are building a home studio in the near future. I was wondering about some good mics. Now we have a few Seinheiser vocal mics lying around. We have an SM57, an SM58, and SM58 Beta mic. We're getting the Opus drum microphones (http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/OpusDrumPkSE) We're saving up for an AKG C414 but are planning on using the SM58 beta for the vocals for now (until July). With these mics that we have (including the opus) what should we use for micing guitar amps bass amps etc. Are any of the opus mics good for that stuff, I heard that for guitar amps you use an SM57, a condensor mic, and an ambience mic. You put one of them behind the cab and put it 180 degrees out of phase? Please tell me what you would do.
 
man you're just going to have to stick every damn mic you got in front of that guitar cab and pick the one you like. really *anything* can sound good if thats the sound you want, especially with a guitar amp. i would probly just use one of the sennies or the beta, maybe a 2nd room mic but it would depend on what I am going for that day. personally i have never heard of opus mics, but for $1200 it looks like you can get waaayyy better. for that much you can get a nice selection of beyer, EV, AT, AKG... i'd probably also scratch the 414...but I'm not you and you are not me.
 
Use the search feature on "drum mics" and see what it comes up with. You'll prolly get a lot of threads with people saying to stay away from drum mic packages, and I totaly agree.

I use a 4 mic setup, EV RE20 in the kick, SM57 on snare and 2 Studio Projects B1's in XY config for overheads. That gives me the sound I'm going for in my drum room but everyones setup is different.

Try and keep it simple to start with. If you go throwing mics on every tom and undermicing snares and stuff you can run into a lot of phase cancelation stuff

Some Drum mics....

Kick: D112, AT25, EV RE20, BETA 52

Snare: SM57, Bayer M201

Overheads: Small diaphram condensors get used a lot

Toms: spoiled for choice here but SM57 will get you the job done

That's just a few suggestions to get you started
 
so thats a negative on the opus? I dont know they just seemed good to me, each mic was expensive enough. This was going to be the drum mic setup before hand... two sm 81s for overheads, sm 57s all around for toms and snare, no idea for hi-hat, and beta 52
 
farewellending said:
so thats a negative on the opus? I dont know they just seemed good to me, each mic was expensive enough. This was going to be the drum mic setup before hand... two sm 81s for overheads, sm 57s all around for toms and snare, no idea for hi-hat, and beta 52

As I said, there are a LOT of choices for tom mics although the 57's do get the job done there are probably better suited mics in the same price range.

As for hihats.... I never mic them, I usualy find the overheads pick up more than their share. Only time I'd use one if I had a drummer in that really knew how to use then and was peddling away constantly on them.

I'm not saying the Opus package isn't a good one but just because something is expensive doesn't mean it's gonna be the best tool for the job at hand.
 
1. If you ever decide to sell that kit, you'll have a hard time doing it and recovering even a fraction of what you invested.

2. Your budget includes enough to get individual mics that are proven, and - if need be, 'cause you're upgrading or whatever - easily resold.

3. The mics in that kit are not proven, are little-known, and you'll basically be playing a guessing game as to how well they're actually going to work.

4. While most kits contain some good mics, they usually include some duds as well.

5. For that budget you could also get other mics that are proven to work well for many other applications.
 
You may want to search for info on the mics individually. The Opus mics are made by Beyerdynamic, which generally have an excellent track record. Try learning more about each of the individual mics in the kit, and then you might learn if thats the way to go for you, or if you'd be better off buying individual mics to suit your needs.
 
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