Holy crap endurance!!!

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we were talking about Mesa Arizona Emo-death Meatl bands and I remembered these guys. This was a demo I did for this band that landed them on Metal Blade Records. I assure you this was all in the same take, none of the kick drums were punched, and they did three or four of these 6-8 minute songs with the double kick going like this the whole time...

timing is off and on, but JEEZ the little guy wanst even sweating!
 
Pipeline...

Could you throw me some info on how you recorded the vokills.
Mics, pres, stuff like that. thanks.
 
I have a few notes from this session. Let me convert my chicken scratch to legible english and Ill post it here.
 
its like the stuff Vehemence and Fall of Empyrea play. Combining death metal with the emo/sissypunk melodic style. Ithink death metal guys have another term for it but a lot of Europeans call it " Mesa Metal" as in Mesa, Arizona.

OK so heres what notes I have from the session, this was a ways back, at a studio with not much equipment

Kick drum: Sennheiser Shotgun Mic thru SLL G383 Mic pre, hi pass filter on to almost 400hz, boosted nearly 3dB at 8khz bandwidth near middle. This mic was pointed inside at the beater, also there was a Shure Beta 52 kinda halfway into the soundhole, going into a Soundcaraft ghost mic pre -6dB around 320hz. This went into a DBX 160SL pulling an everage of 2 dB down ratio 4 to 1, around 80ms attack 300ms release, peak stop plus set to on, just under a tascam DA-88's 0dBFS

Snare drum: Shure SM57 going to SSL G383, slight boost around 250hz, going to DBX160SL 3:1 pulling an average of 3dB attack around 40 release around 250, peak stop plus on. Taped to the 57 was an Oktava mco12 in cardiod with two pads on, going thru a ghost preamp, hi pass around 300hz. Both of these mics were just past the rim of the snare, topside pointed just past far center, and in null position with the hi hat

Toms were Sennheiser e-604's thru ghost pres, no EQ. The mics were taken off the clips and rescrewed in backwards, giving more pointing towards the rim and a little more distance that normal

hat and ride were Oktava MC012's cardiod, with one pad each, thru ghost pre's hi pass around 400hz. The mics were placed near the center of each, slightly diagonal like 80degrees, and one "shaka" above the cymbals

Overheads were two 414's in an M/S pattern thru focusrite red 8's, to be decoded later by throwing them to three channels on the mixing app ( the way to do this is explained somewhere on here long ago )

Bass DI was straight from a SWR Goliath pre everything ( but not pre enough! ) into a SSL G383, no EQ, into LA-4 COmpressor, pulling an average of 6 dB but swinging like mad. Bass amp was a 15" miced by a Shure Beta 52, nearly on center, thru a ghost pre, no EQ

Guitars were mesa and marshall, thru 4x12's, with two shure 57's miced and phased in the way I explained in the "recording metal guitars " thread". Thru Ghost mic pre's, no EQ, then summed to 1 track before going to tape

Ok the vocal notes are shaky the low voice was Nuemann TLM-193, with a Shure Beta 52, mostly. The nuemann went thru a focusrite pre, then to DBX 160SL an average of about 3dB about 50ms attack and 50ms release. The shure went thru an SSL g383, with 550hz scooped out about 6dB about an octave wide, then run thru a DBX 160SL with the compressor off, but peak stop (not peak stop plus) on and pulling about 9 dB down from time to time.

The hi vocals were mostly thru a sennheiser shotgun mic but also thru some older studer dynamics. These both went thru the SSL 383 mic pre's with no eq, but hi pass on at around 250hz. Then both on stereo linked to a DBX 160SL pulling about 12 !!! dB from time to time with the compressor always riding, about 25 ms attack and 500 or so ms release
 
pipeline...

Thanks , very informative. I gotta try my Oktava on snare now.
 
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