Hiss troubles again!!!

[mjmike]

Well i was asking for help last forum and seems like nobody wanted to help me, so im going to try again, last time i figured out my Korg D3200 had a problem now my next question is, im ghookin up a tr 61 to a d1200 MKII, and im using trs to XlR moGombi cables, now idk if its just when recording digital stuff straight off reson in to pro tools or what ever but when i trriger my track to record there always this background hiss, is this always going to be in there? i here a lot off istrumentals for diffrent artist and that have no background noise, now this hiss is faint but i still can hear it want my music to be loud, but i dont want them to turn the music up and then here the faint hiss in the background please i really need help and nobody doesnt seem to wanna take the time to wall me through or explain this question?!!

 

[nzausrec]

I would but I don't use any of that equipment (Korg D3200, tr 61, d1200 MKII, XlR moGombi cables) and have no exp. so can't tell yah, also I don't know what ghooking is so I just dunno.

 

[mjmike]

i meant "hooking"

 

[Waltz Mastering]

You can reduce hiss by "proper" gain staging.

For instance, if your keyboard's volume is low and you jack the input up on your recorder to get good level, you are inducing a lot of hiss into the recording.

If your keyboard is at an optimal level (loud without distortion) you will need less input gain on your recorder to obtain good level, inducing less hiss and creating a better signal to noise ratio.

Maximizing your gain structure is very important for retaining clean recordings.

 

[mjmike]

Ok see i have my gain all the way to left and i have my outputs to have live 127 is max i like to set it between 60-50, so when i plug it in on my fader im at about -12 dbs, but its way to quiet!!! when i start turning the gain a lil to the right there comes the hiss

 

[Barry B]

I have a D1600. I had similar problems when recording vocals but it was the way I'd set my preamp.

Mine is fine. I keep the gain low when recording with the fader set at 0. and within reason run the levels hot ish out of the MPC/Pre Amp/Turntable and record.

 

[nzausrec]

^ I wasn't dishing you, I just need a friend. I'm gonna go get my teddy bear - forget the nasty techno stuff when in the old days all we needed was unlevened bread and faith and a minstrel nomadic living to get by.
No tangled cords and pins and faulty transistors putting us back thousands of years like monkeys crawling around and banging our heads on our daworkstations.

 

[mjmike]

You can reduce hiss by "proper" gain staging.

For instance, if your keyboard's volume is low and you jack the input up on your recorder to get good level, you are inducing a lot of hiss into the recording.

If your keyboard is at an optimal level (loud without distortion) you will need less input gain on your recorder to obtain good level, inducing less hiss and creating a better signal to noise ratio.

Maximizing your gain structure is very important for retaining clean recordings.

It doesnt matter what i do with gain or not as soon as i plug the mogami cables in to the recording from the triton hiss is there even when i dont have the tracks set to the outputs

 

[michaelSHK]

you might get a better response if you learned how to effectively communicate. your posts are ridiculous to decipher.

from what i can tell, you're trying to record from reason to pro tools, correct?

why not just bounce your reason session to a WAV, and import in PT? then you don't have to deal with any gear/improper gain staging.

 

[mixsit]

He wrote this

You can reduce hiss by "proper" gain staging.
For instance, if your keyboard's volume is low and you jack the input up on your recorder to get good level, you are inducing a lot of hiss into the recording.
If your keyboard is at an optimal level (loud without distortion) you will need less input gain on your recorder to obtain good level, inducing less hiss and creating a better signal to noise ratio.
Maximizing your gain structure is very important for retaining clean recordings.

Then you wrote this gibberish.

Ok see i have my gain all the way to left and i have my outputs to have live 127 is max i like to set it between 60-50, so when i plug it in on my fader im at about -12 dbs, but its way to quiet!!! when i start turning the gain a lil to the right there comes the hiss

Seems.. like your saying the noise is from there and it is not maximized. Any decent converter is likely not adding the noise and records what you give it.

you might get a better response if you learned how to effectively communicate. your posts are ridiculous to decipher.

+1. Communicate.

 

[mjmike]

you might get a better response if you learned how to effectively communicate. your posts are ridiculous to decipher.

from what i can tell, you're trying to record from reason to pro tools, correct?

why not just bounce your reason session to a WAV, and import in PT? then you don't have to deal with any gear/improper gain staging.

actually, i wrote all off that above, first off i apologize if you dont understand again im using a d3200(Standalone Hardware Recoding Studio) and a Triton Extreme (Keyboard/sequencer) This has absolutely nothing to do with reason or protools...

 

[mjmike]

He wrote this

Then you wrote this gibberish.

Seems.. like your saying the noise is from there and it is not maximized. Any decent converter is likely not adding the noise and records what you give it.


+1. Communicate.

Once again im speaking about my Korg D3200 and Korg triton extreme and im sorry if im not saying it right, but i say my gain is to the far left that means its LOW LEVEL, umm then i have the korg triton extreme sequencer on im tryin to record each individual track to the korg d3200, now i meant to say the max i can go to is 127 sound level like any other midi devices, but i record at a level half of that which is around 50 - 60 volume level now when i got back to the korg d3200 i set my fader for each individual track to -12dbs but i can hear much and when i even inch my gain on the track hissing pops up, now im not blasting the gain up to full Capacity just like and inch even less, im figuring out that it maybe my D3200

 

[mixsit]

How about if you are just listening to that same triton output line- plugged into another clean amp or whatever, is it noisy there also?
I would also try a test with it up around 120-127, see if it helps the tone to noise level.

 

[mjmike]

How about if you are just listening to that same triton output line- plugged into another clean amp or whatever, is it noisy there also?
I would also try a test with it up around 120-127, see if it helps the tone to noise level.

Yeah, we did that, but there wasnt that noise, yet when i put my headphones it was, now i check my head phones, with several different others, and same noise, then i wanted to make sure, that it wast the headphone jack it self and it wasnt, we believe the guy whole sold me the whole setup gave a used or damaged material, because i have been relating this issue with other people and they never ever had the problems im having. also even with gates and effects to help hiss its still there just underneath that instrument its hard to explain like for example when i use a harp and its constantly going, mean no breaks ill get a horrible hiss its really hard to explain again im sorry if you dont understand...