Help with VF160: Removing Pre-Roll

[Rentparty]

Help! I can't seem to figure out how to remove the 1 to 5 seconds at the beginning of my recordings where I'm pushing the play and record button and running around getting set to record.

Sometimes I just want to remove the sound of the buttons being pushed, other times, it's a few seconds of talking or cueing someone to start playing.

This has to be pretty simple, but I've done searches and used the manual and tried to follow it step by step, but I can't get it to work.

Can anyone post the steps for me and others who may have this challenge, please?

Also, if anyone has a technique for breaking down longer recordings (where you leave the recorder going for either several takes or for a performance that goes from one song into another) into shorter songs- that would be great.

Thanks for your wisdom and help!

 

[Rentparty]

Update-for some reason I didn't see this before, but I found a procedure for removing a long "lead in" on the Fostex site in the FAQ. I'll try this tonight.

How do you remove a section of the song at the beginning or in the middle of the song? I used Erase function, but that leaves blank space, I want to close the gap.

You will be using Move/Paste function for that.

Example 1: My actual song start at ABS 20 second and ABS 00 to 20 second is lead in click tone or just simply trash that I want to remove, so that my song start at 00s. My song ends at 04m:00s (RECORD END).

You will be moving a clip that start at 20 seconds to 04m:00s (REC END) to ABS 00.

1. Go to the start of the song 20sec then press STORE then CLIPBOARD IN. (20 second is marked at the CLIPBOARD IN points).
2. Go to the end of the song by press STOP and FF button (REC END) at the same time, then press STORE then CLIPBOARD OUT. (The end of the song is marked at the CLIPBOARD OUT points).
3. Go to the the ABS 00 then press STORE then AUTO-PUNCH IN, ( move/paste destination is marked at the AUTO-PUNCH IN point.
4. Press EDIT key until "Move Clip?" is shown on the display.
5. Select the track(s) that you want to move.
6. You should see "Completed" on the display, then "Move Paste" flashes.

 

[glynb]

I've never bothered with this because it can be got rid off at mix-down by only starting your mix after the crap finishes at the begininning. To make lfe easier I carefully wipe each track up until the song proper begins.

I use the internal mixdown technique BTW.

I know what you mean about blank space though. Several times I have recorded a full livew set and then mixed each track separately to an internal mix down. Trouble is for example if song 4 starts 20 minutes in, then you get 20 minutes of blank space at the beginning of the mix down, which is annoying. However, when you burn a CD from the mix it doesn't include the blank space so it doesn't relly matter.

 

[Rentparty]

I couldn't get the procedure above to work to move the entire song to eliminate the silence, but the cut and paste procedure from the Fostex Site FAQ worked great on both initial mixes and internal mixdowns.

Is the following right?

1. I start internal mixdown 30 seconds into a song
2. When I replay the internal mixdown I'll still have the original 30 seconds there,
3. When I burn a CD it begins at the point I started the internal mixdown, eliminating the first 30 seconds of the original mix.

 

[glynb]

Yes, that's it exactly.

Even if you mix a song which is one hour into say a live set and do an internal mixdown, although there is one hour of blank space at the start of the mix, when you actualy come to burn the CD it only starts from the 'clipboard in' point, which is automaticaly set 1 hour in during the mixdown process.

Took me a while to figure that one! But it does work.

Incidentaly, if you wanted to add some extra blank spACE to the final mixdown you can just move the clipboard in point back a little.