tone_aot
Owner of ToneJonez.com
Hi. Okay, i have about $140 bucks to spare. I'm looking at two monitors on ebay. M-audio studio pro 3 and M-audio Dx4. Which one is better?
Scrubucket7
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Save up. Wait until you can spare atleasta bout $250-300. Once you're there, youll have a hundred different choices.
ahj
New member
I own a pair of dx4's they were definitely an upgrade from the computer speakers I was using, but if you can save up more I would go with better ones.
tone_aot
Owner of ToneJonez.com
I guess i'll stop being so impatient and save up for some behringer truths. Those are the first monitors i ever heard and i've adjusted my ears to using them at a friends house. Thanks!
Scrubucket7
New member
Also think about the m-audio bx5a's. I have a pair of them and think theyre awesome, all though ive never heard the behringers.
And i got the for $260 at guitar center.
And i got the for $260 at guitar center.
LemonTree
Suck 'em and see!
tone_aot said:
Probably one of the most overhyped moniters I've heard in that price range. Something like the Wharfedale 8.2A's will give you a MUCH clearer representation of what is goin on in your mix. The Truths are nothing more than an overpriced hifi speaker
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sushi-mon
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LemonTree said:
I almost went with the Wharfdales, but man, their mid range is sure colored and I had a hard time with much low end bass definition. Yes I know they are only 6.5.
I shelled out about $170 more and went for the Event TR8s at $430. The TR8s are a damned smooth sounding neutral speaker. Best overall monitors I found in that range. Of course, now that is way more out of this guy's price range. But, since you mentioned the Warfs, I had to comment on their annoying mids coloration and of course gloat about my Events
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Robert D
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If you can save up $300, the KRK Rokits have a 5" woofer and will get you down to 53Hz. Anything with a 4" speaker is, in my opinion, not worth it. As said before, you'll have lot's of choices in that range, and I urge you to take a trip to somewhere where you can A/B several monitors. Thier importance can not be overstated.
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musicman3eq
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I am finding the tannoy reveal 5a monitors to be very very accurate.
I like them but they were pricey
I like them but they were pricey
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innobidova
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I got my Alesis Active M1 MkII monitor pair for $225. The only real complaint you'll find on these is that there is too much bass response. The manual tells you what you can do to remedy this problem, though, so for me they are A-OK.
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TheDewd
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You get what you pay for, as always.
Under 1000$ per monitor, you won't go anywhere IMO.
Under 1000$ per monitor, you won't go anywhere IMO.
Ford Van
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TheDewd said:
LOL....man, that is funny as hell!
I have been mixing for years on a pair of Event 20/20's and wouldn't change to ANYTHING!
Yamaha NS-10's are a staple in almost ALL big time studios. A pair ran around $400 NEW!
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blazingstrings
dgatwood can **** himself
TheDewd said:
"HA HA! HE Got RIPPED!"
I have a set of Edirol MA-10a's and a set of BX-5a's:
MA-10a's $60 used.
BX-5a's $280 new.
Total $340!
Coments: All the speakers I will ever need! Under $350! And I didnt get a sales man to bend me over like "TheDewd" Did.
-Blaze
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TheDewd
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Ford Van said:
The NS10s are poor speakers and I'm not the only one who's saying that. Ask BlueBear. They have no bass response or extension and are nausea inducing. They are certainly NOT flat, which is what you want for mixing.
The Event 20/20 are old school speakers. Sure, they sound "not bad", but nothing outstanding.
Also, factor in that you have to use a good amplifier with those passive speakers. I said $1000 per ACTIVE monitor...which means about $1500 left for a good amp. And this is what Brystons (and better) go for.
All in all, you can't have a FLAT setup under $2000 + room treatment...
I think you are just used to the 20/20 and the NS10 and they feel like home to you. Good news for you, but they are NOT flat.
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TheDewd
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blazingstrings said:"HA HA! HE Got RIPPED!"
I have a set of Edirol MA-10a's and a set of BX-5a's:
MA-10a's $60 used.
BX-5a's $280 new.
Total $340!
Coments: All the speakers I will ever need! Under $350! And I didnt get a sales man to bend me over like "TheDewd" Did.
-Blaze
I highly doubt your monitors are flat. How can you mix with those ?
M-audio is a crappy company for beginners, while Edirol is the same but WORSE!
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sushi-mon
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TheDewd said:
Why don't you guys have a "mix off" or something.
You do not have to spend over $1,000 per monitor to get good semi-pro results. But I do agree at some point, you won't get good results with speakers that simply do not translate mixes well, i.e., not a fairly flat response, and your room has too many acoustic problems, or you just do not have a good ear for mixing.
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TheDewd
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sushi-mon said:Why don't you guys have a "mix off" or something.
You do not have to spend over $1,000 per monitor to get good semi-pro results. But I do agree at some point, you won't get good results with speakers that simply do not translate mixes well, i.e., not a fairly flat response, and your room has too many acoustic problems, or you just do not have a good ear for mixing.
I think it all comes down to knowing your monitors and your hearing and mixing qualities. My point is that somewhere along the lines, you will find that your $500 monitors are limiting your progress and then you'll spend the big dough. Why not save and buy better now ? It's all I'm saying.
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sushi-mon
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TheDewd said:
Well, you need to start somewhere, so you can appreciate the better stuff by developing your ear, etc. I mean, if my first car was a Ferrari, I would not appreciate it as much as I would, given the fact that I had hand me down clunkers for the first few years of learning how to drive.
Then you can actually tell the differences that you are getting. If that actually ever is necessary for some people. I seriously doubt most homers have spent more the $500 to max $1000 for their monitors.
What do you monitor with ?
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TheDewd
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sushi-mon said:
High Quality Open Headphones, Sennheiser HD600s, very flat, very nice and accurate when paired with a powerful headphone amplifier.
But still, I'm also using a pair of 1975 JBL 4411 along with an old Crown DC150 amplifier to check my mixes on and look for flaws, especially in phase and bass accuracy.
I highly dislike nearfields and powered monitors, I much prefer passive MIDfields, which give a much more accurate representation of what's down there.
The best "near to mid field" I've hear are the Mackie HR824. Very flat and nice, but a little saggy down low (could have been the room though).
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grinder
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My advise would be to my the best monitors you can realistically afford. Take into account the quality of the other gear you have and what you are trying to accomplish with your recording. There isn't much sense in spending $1000 a piece on monitors, if you're recording through a Tascam 4 track and making tapes to share with your friends. Remember that without proper room treatment, the monitors don't mean squat.