Help..I Need a MSR16 (or ?) reel table

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I was gearing up to do some recording with my trusty msr when a horrific noise screamed off the take up reel. Pulled the screw off and the whole table came out in pieces. BooHoo! For some reason the clamp with the two set screws exploded. Emailed Teac/Tascam and no such luck on getting the parts needed, discontinued….go figure. Does anyone have or know where to find used replacement parts for the msr16, or another deck that would cross over. Any help would be greatly appreciated.......
 
I'm not the best with vocabulary, so let me make sure I understand the part you're looking for. Do you mean the hub that the reel sets on broke? Can you take a picture to show what you mean?

If that's the case, I'm selling my Tascam MSR-16, and have also accumulated some spare parts over the years that I won't be needing any more. I'm pretty sure I have a brand new replacement hub if you're interested.

-MD
 
You're...selling your MSR-16?? Why...whatever for???
 
themaddog said:
I'm not the best with vocabulary, so let me make sure I understand the part you're looking for. Do you mean the hub that the reel sets on broke? Can you take a picture to show what you mean?

If that's the case, I'm selling my Tascam MSR-16, and have also accumulated some spare parts over the years that I won't be needing any more. I'm pretty sure I have a brand new replacement hub if you're interested.

-MD
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He’ll need the half of the reel table that attaches to the reel motor shaft. That’s a weak point on the MSR/TSR series. If you have a whole reel table that’ll work too. There is a way to modify half of a different reel table, but it’s a pain, so if you have one for him keep us posted. If not I’ll try to find the post where I explained how to do the mod or I’ll repost something on it.

The reel table is in two parts: The top part that the reel clamper attaches to and the part shown below that attaches to the shaft.

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sweetbeats said:
You're...selling your MSR-16?? Why...whatever for???
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I run no more than two recorders at once. My main machine was a Tascam MS-16 with the Tascam MSR-16 in as an auxiliary machine. I now have an IZ Corp. RADAR V, so I'm phasing out the MSR. The MS-16 will remain as my personal choice for recording, but practice runs and demos will be on the RADAR. And, in purchasing the RADAR I could now use the money from the sale of the MSR.

I've had it posted on the "For Sale" forum for close to a month for $900, but I think it's time to put it up on eBay.

-MD
 
Beck said:
He’ll need the half of the reel table that attaches to the reel motor shaft. That’s a weak point on the MSR/TSR series. If you have a whole reel table that’ll work too. There is a way to modify half of a different reel table, but it’s a pain, so if you have one for him keep us posted. If not I’ll try to find the post where I explained how to do the mod or I’ll repost something on it.

The reel table is in two parts: The top part that the reel clamper attaches to and the part shown below that attaches to the shaft.

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I understand now, I thought it was just the hub, of which I have at least one extra.

-MD
 
Ahhh that's right, MD...I remember now.

Get it while you can from a reliable AO member folks! :D

Beck, I get it now...that's the same design as is present on te 30, 40, and 50 series decks too.

Terminology-wise I've always referred to the bottom part as the actual "hub", and the second part (the part to which the reel hold-down or reel "clamper" attaches) as the reel table.

Is it just a failure of the set screws or does the hub actually crack or fail?

I sold some 48 tables with hubs that had been stripped out and I simply oversized the set-screw holes and tapped them for a larger screw. Took a few minutes and they were better than new.
 
Cory,

The ones in the TSR/MSR look similar, but are very cheap and fragile. They crack like they’re made of pot metal from India, like a cheap wrench. The one in the pic is not the one for the MSR-16... it’s just for illustration of the part we’re talking about. Yes, most Tascam stuff is of similar design, but the 30, 40, 50 series part is beefier than the TSR/MSR part.

Tascam calls this piece and the reel table itself the, “Reel table assembly” and unfortunately they don’t sell them separately, though I always thought they should. They should give it a different part number. They don’t even show that part of the assembly in exploded views.

Otari calls this part the “Reel table holder” and they always sold them separately from the reel table.
 
Yes Beck, that is the piece that fell apart. Broke right in two at the set screws. Was not sure what to call it. My manuel does'nt really call the part that broke anything, so I was kinda guessing. I would be happy to get one from whom ever might have one. Just let me know the price and I am in!!
 
Ya no kidding, that would be nice!! Still keeping my fingers crossed (all nine of them) that one shows up, or that I can repair the one I have.
 
So, out of interest, is the 30-series subassembly compatible with the TSR?
 
JP that was my next question...I'm pretty positive the bore in the hub (the table "holder") for the motor shaft is the same...typically 6mm...it will be dependent on the diameter of the table (does it cooperate with the hole size in the dress panel) and if they AREN'T the same size whether or not the mounting holes in the hub for the table are the same in order to retrofit a MSR/TSR table on a 30/40/50 series hub.

This would be good to know.

So are the MSR-24 hubs the same as the MSR-16/TSR-8 hubs??

Wonder if the 30/40/50 series assemblies are still available...Actually, it would be the 30/40 series that would be the ones...the 30/40 series are different than the 50 as the brake felt is integral to the table on the 30/40 series and is affixed to the brake band on the 50 series. The 30 and 40 series hubs and tables are identical.

I got a brand new 50 series hub and table assembly from Tascam about three years ago...
 
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Give me a sec guys. I'll get this info posted here. For the moment I can't find my old post or where I put all this info on my hard drive. I'll have to dig through some receipts from TEAC Parts Dept to get the right part number.

There is a specific trick to this and it involves a reel table from one of the 30-series decks, but the part that attaches to the reel motor shaft is too long and has to be cut down to fit on the TSR/MSR machines. There is no direct as-is replacement. A fellow at Tascam Service Dept gave me all this info a few years ago when mine broke. I don't know if he's still there or if anyone else is left there that would know... so stand by a min... I'll be back with the goods. :)
 
I have to say you guys are an amazing source of information! All I have to do is read and get tapped into your knowledge of these analog machines. I knew I loved this computer for something....Here is the broken piece we have been talking about. Thanks............



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Yep, that's the beast all right.

Ok, here we go. I had it written down a piece of paper (what was I thinkin’?) and my receipt for the new reel table is from 2003.

The part number for the reel table you need is 5800311402. I think that’s the same for the 34B, but the receipt doesn’t say. It was $60.00 then. I used a dremel tool with a cutting wheel to cut the end down so it would fit the shafts on the TSR-8 reel motors. The motor shafts aren’t as long on the TSR-8. Well hell, I guess size does matter, so that question is settled as well.

So anyway use the old piece to size the new one so its the right depth. The pic I posted earlier is what the new one looks like. I knew I had that pic in my TSR-8 folder for some reason.

EDIT: Oh yeah, one more thing... you’ll need new brake felt because the reel table doesn’t come with that. The part number for the brake felt that goes around the outside of the table is 5800295700 and its only a couple bucks or less.

Hope that helps. :)
 
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OK! Thanks alot! Time to get to work and make this thing just like new again (well kinda)!
 
Beck said:
There is a specific trick to this and it involves a reel table from one of the 30-series decks, but the part that attaches to the reel motor shaft is too long and has to be cut down to fit on the TSR/MSR machines.
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I had heard this was the case for using a BR20 reel table. I honestly never thought of using a 30-series one, though.
 
dj9fingers, where are you? I'm in CT. and I have an MSR16S that you can have for free if you can come pick it up!
 
Oh Man! I live in San Diego but would be willing to pay for the s/h to get it here.
 
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