HELP! Can't record midi & audio together! [Sonar 4]

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This might be a really dumb question, but here goes:

I can record audio and midi perfectly fine, as long as they're by themselves. But once I try to record midi while an audio track is playing, the midi drops out. For example, I have a guitar track and a vocal track laid out. Now I want to record a TTS-1 instrument over them. I'll arm the midi track for recording, and once I hit record, the audio starts playing but the midi drops out and I can't record anything.

I'm using a Yamaha PSR-240 Keyboard->M-Audio FW410->PC, and ASIO drivers. Thanks in advance.
 
djmemory said:
This might be a really dumb question, but here goes:

I can record audio and midi perfectly fine, as long as they're by themselves. But once I try to record midi while an audio track is playing, the midi drops out. For example, I have a guitar track and a vocal track laid out. Now I want to record a TTS-1 instrument over them. I'll arm the midi track for recording, and once I hit record, the audio starts playing but the midi drops out and I can't record anything.

I'm using a Yamaha PSR-240 Keyboard->M-Audio FW410->PC, and ASIO drivers. Thanks in advance.
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What do you mean by "midi drops out"?

Can you see midi input via the icon in the system tray?
Did you dis-arm the audio track first?
Can you record midi if you mute the audio track?
Are the track settings the same as when you tracked midi by itself? It *should* be fine to having both the audio track and the monitor out of the midi track being recorded going to the same audio channel out, but just in case, can you set them to different output channels?
 
Can you see midi input via the icon in the system tray?
I can see the midi input before I hit record. The keyboard icon in the system tray will light up and I can hear the synth sounds. After I hit record and the audio tracks start playing, I lose the midi signals (no lights, no sounds)


Did you dis-arm the audio track first?
Yes, only the midi track is armed for recording.


Are the track settings the same as when you tracked midi by itself? It *should* be fine to having both the audio track and the monitor out of the midi track being recorded going to the same audio channel out, but just in case, can you set them to different output channels?

Yes, the settings are the same as when I track midi by itself. As for setting them to different output channels, could you clarify on that? I have the audio track outputs set to master, and the midi output set to the synth (Cakewalk TTS-1). Is that correct?


I lose the midi signal a lot. Every once in a while, the midi would just stop responding. I have to keep going to Options->Midi Devices to re-activate and for midi to work again. Could this be due to buffer size?
 
What's you're clock source (Options > Project > Clock) set to?
 
I've never seen that happen before.
It's almost as if there is some sort of device contention going on. However, given that the midi and audio I/O are going through the same card would sort of rule that out.

Have you tried it with the wdm drivers? It would be worth just ruling that out as an issue. Let me know if that changes anything.
 
Al, the clock source is set to "audio." I don't know anything about clock sources....is this right?
 
fraserhutch said:
I've never seen that happen before.
It's almost as if there is some sort of device contention going on. However, given that the midi and audio I/O are going through the same card would sort of rule that out.

Have you tried it with the wdm drivers? It would be worth just ruling that out as an issue. Let me know if that changes anything.
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Fraser,

when i change the drivers to wdm, i don't get ANY sound playback at all. the vu level monitors on sonar are working, and i see output signals on my Firewire 410...but no sounds to my monitors or headphones. any suggestions?

thanks for all your help guys, i really appreciate it.
 
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