Heavy rock, vocals in mix?

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What phase are you talking about?
Do you mean the chorus and flanger on the guitar at the start or the stereo vocal delay?
i cant hear any phasing or phase effect.
cheers for the response though.
 
My 2 cents -

Wow, harsh, really harsh.

It's very top heavy and everything sounds like it is stacked in the middle. Guitars are very brittle.

On the good side, it sounds like there is some real potential there.

What are you monitoring with?
 
ecktronic said:
What phase are you talking about?
Do you mean the chorus and flanger on the guitar at the start or the stereo vocal delay?
i cant hear any phasing or phase effect.
cheers for the response though.
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Yeah, my bad.
 
I am really wanting feedback on the vocals fitting in the mix, but cheers for the replies.
Not sure how everything is stacked in the middle. It is panned quite considerably and it also has alot of lo and hi end in the mix. Thats the sound i was going for.
 
I am monitoring on Mackie Hr802s. The big mackie monitors.
There might be a tad too much hi end added at mastering i suppose. But i like the real middy sound of the guitars.
 
ecktronic said:
I am really wanting feedback on the vocals fitting in the mix, but cheers for the replies.
Not sure how everything is stacked in the middle. It is panned quite considerably and it also has alot of lo and hi end in the mix. Thats the sound i was going for.
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It's pretty hard to tell here - maybe it's something on my end, but I ain't gettin' much of anything in the low and mid dept.

Sorry I'm not much help.

:)
 
The flanger\phaser thing is rough, and there is something going on in the highend the sounds like crap. They sound like BUSH.
 
Spaztic said:
The flanger\phaser thing is rough, and there is something going on in the highend the sounds like crap. They sound like BUSH.
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the band themselves doesn't sound at all like bush. the singer definitely sounds like gavin rossdale sometimes though.

the vocals are a little high in my opinion.

the mix is really super thin sounding though. almost to the point of being hard to listen to.

the song itself sounds like it should be in a movie soundtrack. at least that's what it make me think.

cool song. it could use a better mix though.
 
God, I almost turned it off because of that fucking phasey guitar. But, kept on, comments held strong on the lack of low end and low mid area. The high end is also not sounding right... Guitars need some meat, could be from lack there of of bass, though.. Vocals sound good, a little too up front for my tastes. Overall, I'd say it is a cool song, but it needs a major remix IMHO...
 
holey hi hat bat man, it's kinda harsh

yea, about the same as above

re: vox, i think the reverb makes it sit in a strange place, maby to loud?
but address every thing else first
sorry can't finish the song
 
Not enough lo end!! you must be joking, the lo end is blasting like.
 
ecktronic said:
Not enough lo end!! you must be joking, the lo end is blasting like.
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There's a lot in the way-low-end, but there's not a lot of balance across the boards. The far low end is blasting and the far high end is excruciating, then there's a heavy dead center, but not a lot of padding in between the far low and far high ends. I think that's what was meant by NL5 saying it was "top heavy" and "stacked in the middle". Give the EQ some balance and make that first guitar a little less... err... shrill.

To me, this band has a System of a Down flavor. I can see where you're going with the Bush thing though.

The vocals sat a lot better than I can get mine to, so you're obviously close if not where you want to be already.

Good luck!
 
Cheers firetech. I will fix the guitar at the start its just to hi end ataacky. I thought that the vocals had too much reverb on them also which i will fix and the vox will also be turned down a fraction or two.
Suppose Serotone do have a wee bit of a SOAD feel but not as heavy like. Cant hear the Bush influence on vocals though but i dont really listen to much bush.
My problem is more on the mastering side. I know i still have alot to learn with my hearing capabilites. Im using headphones for mastering so it makes it really hard to "guess" what it will sound like on hifis.
 
listening now.

rad tune! a little heavy on the reverbs on the guitars for my taste, but then again, I like stuff dry. i'd like to hear the Vox up a bit louder on the little intro part, but sounds great once you break in to the main verses. i have no idea what you are saying in the chorus/intro parts...it seems to be being over come by guitars to the sides. it's cool as hell, but i'd personally like the hear the vox a tad more legible in those parts.

good stuff. other than that, i think things sound pretty damn balanced to me.
 
Cheers Robert8. The mix was fine im sure apart from the vox. Im gonna have to disagree with you on uping the vocals. I feel that they are too loud and dont sit right in the mix. Im gonna work on EQing them in the mix and maybe some more thickening of the vocals via mild distortion or something to make them more present without being louder. Thanks for the good words though.
Mastering is just a pain on headphones!! maybe close to imposiible.
 
Ok i took advice from folk here and modified the track.
Please take another listen and see if yous think it is any better. Im pretty sure it sounds meatier and not so thin. A tad on the muddy side? or am i just used to super clear masters? I played with the vox a bit just changing the EQ as i didnt have much time to do anything else apart from muck up the compression settings by accident. Yous will hear the vocals waving a few times by very bad for not noticing it in the studio.
 
Sounds MUCH better on my end.

Only thing I thought was off is the bass guitar is a tad loud.

Good job. :)
 
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