Heaven or Near - Tryout

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Hi,

Next week me and my band are going to record a new demo, and we did a 'try-out' of a couple of songs to find a way of recording that fits good with our band.

So.. this is the rough mix.. suggestions & esp. critiques are now VERY welcome.

http://www.nowhereradio.com/artists/?aid=2755/singles
Heaven or near tryout


Bye,
Maarten.
 
Rockin!

This sounds like it has a lot of eq on the individual tracks. I seem to be hearing some weirdness in the drums and bass like to much filtering or something....?

I could check it out in the studio later, I need to do some recording now.
 
Herm said:
Use a click track
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is it that bad?

but thanks anyway.. I will keep it in mind.

Also thanks jake-owa.. indeed, maybe I played around too much with the eq's on the different channels. I will try to get this better.
 
Everything sounds like you are 100 feet away. Try to bring the mix in more... Eq the drums... the Vocals are WAY too quiet.
 
thanks.. you think I'm using too much reverb on everything?
 
what jake said... I find the kick too "clicky" ...and bass too "stringy" sometimes....maybe you cut too much lows....timing issues throughout...
But I like the song...keep at it...

Good work..
 
Is your avatar Stevie Nicks going postal with a tambourine? LOL.

This has a kind of an epic vibe to it, but the sounds aren't quite epic enough...

Fuck, that vocalist is great...I don't know if it's you, but that vocal should be front and center and HUGE.

Bass - Sounds like it has almost no low end.

Guitars - Have too much low end for a lot of it?

I actually like the lead tone. I agree with the comment about the drums being really distant...I think it's the way all the high end from the kit cuts through.

You know, this won't be helpful at all, but when all the instruments are going, this reminds me kind of what it sounds like to listen to band outdoors when you're pretty far away.

The bass got better, btw.

Man, that vocalist...that's cool. The sound of her voice kinda' reminds me of Lt.Bob's vocalist (who just happens to be his daughter) :D

I can tell you put some work into this...maybe you worked it too much? Just make everything closer, lol...

Sorry, I know I'm not real helpful.
 
you really are, you all! thanks a lot, i'm going to work on it!
 
oh and my avatar is actually myself three years ago molesting a cymbal at a gig :D.
 
What happened to the low-mids? :D

I have the opposite problem with my mixes.:eek:

The groove gets a bit lost in a few spots, but I don't know about the click track idea. I hate click tracks. Maybe just get the drummer a couple of drinks so he's not trying to be right on the beat.

Oh, wait your the drummer, right? :o

If your drinking, stay sober when you play. :D

Good tune, just needs a little work.:cool:
 
Thanks! In which aspect of the song (instruments) do you mostly hear the lack of low-mids? I'll see to find out if I did some strange things with the eq on those tracks.

Oh and I am the drummer indeed. :)
I know, not a big talent, but what did you exactly mean; do I have to drink more or even less? :D:D
Actually I'm a piano player trying to play drums, don't blame me.
 
a pretty intense tune. I liked the energy. The drums were pretty good, just not enough meat on them, and the bass could use some more eq boost on the low end to balance the upper tones but not enough to war with the kick if you fatten it. The keys could come up more and the vocals (good singer). I like the snare a little brighter. The live sound verb is cool with me but it washes some of the definition out a bit. kick is too clicky for the bass to have a voice in the same freq range. One or the other has to be bone and the other meat. I found they both can`t sit in the same seat. Good playing technique on the drums..
 
I agree with most of what's been said already. It doesn't sound bad, the instruments are well seperated. Perhaps a bit too much though: I think the dryness of the drums/rhythm guitar/bass clashes with the processed sound of the solo guitar and keyboards.

Sounds like the bass has no mid frequencies whatsoever, just bass (I almost hear sub lows) and lots of highs. Vocals have to be more upfront, like Chris said.

And indeed, watch the timing...(easy to say for me, I have a computer to play it for me :) )
 
Toki987 said:
Good playing technique on the drums..
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Ahh.. that's sweet.. finally a compliment about my drumplaying, I was starting to get desperate already. :D
But all of you thanks again for all the comments. As could be seen in another thread I have already started to experiment with other drum-mixing methods, I will start to do the same with bass guitar soon. The only problem is I have no bass (just a contrabass) or bassplayer around, but I'll figure it out. Thanks!
 
Cool vibe to this one. I too like the vocalist - good power. Real good. Lot's of change-ups in this one. Some good guitar playing. Good drumming too - loved the triplets around 2:30.

The synths were cool - kind of an 80's feel.

Some of the guitars could probably have some mids tamed just a bit. The bass sounded good through the first 30 seconds. But in the next section, I thought it didn't have enough lows. In the section from 1:22 - 1:44 it had a little "clicky" sound to it.

You could probably pull back the highhat level just a bit. And give the vocals a boost - they're too good to leave that far back.

Good feel - good song. Trip.
 
F_cksia said:
Thanks! In which aspect of the song (instruments) do you mostly hear the lack of low-mids? I'll see to find out if I did some strange things with the eq on those tracks.

Oh and I am the drummer indeed. :)
I know, not a big talent, but what did you exactly mean; do I have to drink more or even less? :D:D
Actually I'm a piano player trying to play drums, don't blame me.
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The whole mix to me seemed to be too scooped. There is stuff happening way down low, and up high.
Might be a case of too much EQing. I try to EQ things as little as possible. Sometimes the intended cure is worse than the disease.

I didn't mean to imply your not a good drummer. Your drum chops are actually quite good. You just seem a bit rushed, and tentative at times.

If your not drinking, maybe you should start. If you are, maybe you should cut down when recording.:D

Pretty good drumming for a pianist.:)
 
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