Have You Ever Seen The Rain (full)

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Good vocal performance. Good cover of a classic.

Okay, the drums, with all the ghost notes, are very busy and it's gets old quick. It sounds like ezdrummer or some other vsti and you should choose a simpler pattern, then embellish. (I've done the same thing in the past and others were quick to point it out)

When the acoustic comes in, it sounds very thin. I also think it's louder in the mix than it should be.

There's some distortion around 0:19.

Bass is a tad too loud.

I think you add some kind of percussion at 1:27, but they don't sit in their own space, can barely hear them. Maybe washed out by the busy drums and dominant bass.

Finding the right balance is never easy. Especially after you've been working on it for hours. Take a break for a day or so and come back to it. Also listen at different volume levels, you'll hear things differently. Strike a balance that works both loud and soft.

Do you have this going through a limiter?? If so, I recommend backing off a little.

Cool man.
 
Chili said:
Good vocal performance. Good cover of a classic.

Okay, the drums, with all the ghost notes, are very busy and it's gets old quick. It sounds like ezdrummer or some other vsti and you should choose a simpler pattern, then embellish. (I've done the same thing in the past and others were quick to point it out)

When the acoustic comes in, it sounds very thin. I also think it's louder in the mix than it should be.

There's some distortion around 0:19.

Bass is a tad too loud.

I think you add some kind of percussion at 1:27, but they don't sit in their own space, can barely hear them. Maybe washed out by the busy drums and dominant bass.

Finding the right balance is never easy. Especially after you've been working on it for hours. Take a break for a day or so and come back to it. Also listen at different volume levels, you'll hear things differently. Strike a balance that works both loud and soft.

Do you have this going through a limiter?? If so, I recommend backing off a little.

Cool man.
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Wow. Ok. Ummm...No limiter first off. As for the drums, it is two diffren drum programs actually running two separate patterns. I thought it would sound cool, and I normally don't go with that wild of a drum beat. I just thought it fit, and still do. and I have a bit of a problem adjusting anything because I bounce a lot to diffrent project files, because I am running low on cpu now and can't have too many tracks going at once or else it bogs me down so it makes it a little hard to mix. There are some bongos and a shaker at the point that you mentioned. I agree that the bongos are very low in the mix, but the shaker is sitting there because it was distracting me too much at any higher volume. There is actually a sax section and a ukulele at the end, but they too are far in the mix to really understand, or hear. Just there to fatten it up in a subliminal way. I will see what I can do about a remix, but I don't know if I will be able to tackle everything. I'll try opening all the stems in one session, and see what I can do. Thanks for the input, and comments! :D

-Adam.
 
I LOVE this song.
The drums are a little busy but most importantly too upfront.
I'm happy with the bass levels - though soe more definition would be cool.
Vocals are the key - they work: in fact a capella might be the go - seriously - or with a drone or two in the background - dirge like!
The acoustic strum is a little cabaret I'm afraid - it'd work with a distorted electric but the acoustic doesn't do it for me.
Keep working through your ideas - always an enkjoyable listen and often a learning curve for me.
 
Adam,

I like it. Drums may be a bit active but certainly gives it some originality.

Overall I think its a tight mix and you also have a great voice!

Joe
 
rayc said:
I LOVE this song.
The drums are a little busy but most importantly too upfront.
I'm happy with the bass levels - though soe more definition would be cool.
Vocals are the key - they work: in fact a capella might be the go - seriously - or with a drone or two in the background - dirge like!
The acoustic strum is a little cabaret I'm afraid - it'd work with a distorted electric but the acoustic doesn't do it for me.
Keep working through your ideas - always an enkjoyable listen and often a learning curve for me.
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Thanks. I Tried hard on the vocals. I would like to know how it is a learning curve though. I am interested. Thanks loads man! :D

Dak_Sunset said:
Adam,

I like it. Drums may be a bit active but certainly gives it some originality.

Overall I think its a tight mix and you also have a great voice!

Joe
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Thanks a Lot! :D Here is a new mix.
I hope it is the last.
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_songInfo.cfm?bandID=688193&songID=7385712
My the way, I am feeling a bit under the weather. Runny nose, stopped up head. I had a bit of a bad throat when I sang this. I hope my throat doesn't get any worse. I have sore throats. I demand you have pitty on me now! :D

-Adam.
 
Your choice of material, your choice of arrangement, your performance & mostly your originals - always challenge my comfy preconceptions about music.
With this one for ex. I had to listen carefully to the drums to see how you were using them as the main accompaniment for the vocal with the guitar and bass as textures.
Still think a Capella might be cool.
 
It would be fine with just the shaker for percussion. Those drums kill this song. The rest sounds fine to me. Nice vocals.
 
Ok, now I get it. Your vocals sound much better with your own accompaniment :). I don't think you'd want the grainy john fogerty style on this version anyway.

I really like the performance and arrangement personally. I think the whole bass/drum/guitar combo gives this tune a much needed face-lift. The mix isn't doing it for me for some reason though.

The whole thing sounds a little disjointed to me somehow. I like the drums as I already said, but the level and tone of the snare is kind of distracting. Like the bass as is. Liked the bongos a lot even at the current level, but wished they had more snap or crack to cut through a bit more - they sound a bit muffled maybe.

The subliminal parts were just that. I had no idea they were there even there though I knew they were and strained to try to hear them. Very nice job dude :D.
 
Another vote for pulling the drums back or calming them down... Really distracting from the rest of the song.

Love your vocals on this... You made it yours and still kept the original feel... Good job!

Check the word 'been' at 19 seconds in... Sounds like some sort of clipping or...?

I like where you took this

:)
 
propman said:
My the way, I am feeling a bit under the weather. Runny nose, stopped up head. I had a bit of a bad throat when I sang this. I hope my throat doesn't get any worse. I have sore throats. I demand you have pitty on me now! :D

-Adam.
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Well, if this is your singing at its worst, then you probably have a future. :D It's very good.

peace.
 
heatmiser said:
Ok, now I get it. Your vocals sound much better with your own accompaniment :). I don't think you'd want the grainy john fogerty style on this version anyway.

I really like the performance and arrangement personally. I think the whole bass/drum/guitar combo gives this tune a much needed face-lift. The mix isn't doing it for me for some reason though.

The whole thing sounds a little disjointed to me somehow. I like the drums as I already said, but the level and tone of the snare is kind of distracting. Like the bass as is. Liked the bongos a lot even at the current level, but wished they had more snap or crack to cut through a bit more - they sound a bit muffled maybe.

The subliminal parts were just that. I had no idea they were there even there though I knew they were and strained to try to hear them. Very nice job dude :D.
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Oh...never mind. Just realized I was listening to the 1st mix, not the 2nd. Having heard the 2nd a couple of times now, many of the comments above no longer apply...:o sorry.

Nothing to see here...move along!
 
heatmiser said:
Ok, now I get it. Your vocals sound much better with your own accompaniment :). I don't think you'd want the grainy john fogerty style on this version anyway.

I really like the performance and arrangement personally. I think the whole bass/drum/guitar combo gives this tune a much needed face-lift. The mix isn't doing it for me for some reason though.

The whole thing sounds a little disjointed to me somehow. I like the drums as I already said, but the level and tone of the snare is kind of distracting. Like the bass as is. Liked the bongos a lot even at the current level, but wished they had more snap or crack to cut through a bit more - they sound a bit muffled maybe.

The subliminal parts were just that. I had no idea they were there even there though I knew they were and strained to try to hear them. Very nice job dude :D.
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Did you check the second mix?

-Adam.
 
Adam, I wouldn't put that drum-beat all the way in the song. It sounds good on the intro, but as soon as everything else kicks in it sounds too hectic and distracts from your beautiful voice.
And yeah, I sympathise with your sore throat....I know what that's like for a singer ;)

Joey :):):):)
 
joeym said:
Adam, I wouldn't put that drum-beat all the way in the song. It sounds good on the intro, but as soon as everything else kicks in it sounds too hectic and distracts from your beautiful voice.
And yeah, I sympathise with your sore throat....I know what that's like for a singer ;)

Joey :):):):)
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Oh, it's not just the fact that I sing (and try to keep on doing so through a sore throat) it is just they are really crappy to sit out. I would rather have flames shooting out of my eyes while I'm being stricken in the back of the head with a tire iron, than have a sore throat. They just hurt too effin' much. I would tone down the drums, but it just seems like too much work for a cover, you know? That is another way of saying I am too lazy. :D Thanks for the comment!

-Adam.
 
This is really well done man. I may have done drums a little more traditionally... but it is a cover so fuck it :p

You have a great voice.

Good job,

-jD
 
I can appreciate what you are trying to accomplish with the bass line. Almost gives it a calypso kind of feel. I think with the vocals it would sound pretty good no matter if you left out the drums or kept them. My preference would be a shaker and maybe some cajon. Just light percussion. Either way, nice job.
 
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