has anyone recorded a live harpsicord performance?

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i have a friend who is going to present a piece of work on harpsicord. unfortunately, this may be the only time that the work is played in it's entirety. he wants it recorded, and i have no live recording experience, but want to help out.

i would like to reocrd it digitally.

thanks for your help.

joel
 
i would probably use a blumlein pair of ribbons about 4 feet out from the instrument. a second method would be an ORTF of condensers at the same location. the typical small condensers over the soundboard, like you would do for a rock piano part, will likely not work well for the thin, brightish sound of the harpsichord. this is very similar to recording a celtic harp. i have seen a guy use a 5-mic setup on a harpsichord in a studio, trying to hedge his bets, and if you can pull this off, try it - he used a pair of neumann km54s (small capsule condenser tube mics) over the soundboard in the instrument, an ORTF pair of km140s at about 4 feet, and a large condenser under the soundboard. he recorded each mic to a separate track and blended it all together for a final sound. this kind of thing can give you great flexibility for mixing and tone control without having to EQ the crap out of it - just be careful about phasing.
 
LOL - hedging his bets, or overkill? If I put five mics on me and my guitar I'd just be adding tracks and time to the final result, probably.

Hi, again. What can you do about the phasing problem? This issue came up in another thread, but nobody seemed to know how to deal with it.
 
dob - i must admit that i sometimes do the "hedging your bets" type of recording myself. sometimes you find yourself needing to track a new kind of setup, or something familiar but you only have one chance to get it right. by using more than one type of mic arrangement you can compensate for what works and what doesn't. the last remote gig i did was a flute quartet in a very large church - i had very definite ideas about what i wanted to do when i first walked in and listened to them, but as i listened more to the ambient noise, i realized that i had some obtrusive heavy truck noises mixed in there even with a high pass filter, so i knew i might run into trouble if i used just my normal blumlein pair of ribbons. so i did a set using both the ribbons at around 8-10 feet and an ORTF of small condensers at about 4 feet, then i had them play the entire set over again using individual close mics. i wound up using the close mic setup for the final mix - not what i had originally thought would be the right thing.

to correct phase problems, you need preamps or a mixer that have phase reversal switches. you pull up your mics one at a time listening for consistency inthe low end - if you pull up a mic and the sound gets thinner instead of louder, you probably are having phase cancellation issues, so you flip the phase on that mic and listen again. phase problems can be very problematic if you dont have much experience, and are one of themain reasons labels like delos prefer minimal mic techniques.
 
Minimalism appeals - probably because simplicity means fewer variables.

But imagine you hadn't found the close micing of the flute quartet to have produced the best sound, what would you have done do you think with the tracks using the ribbons and condensors? Would you have opted for either ribbons or condensors in the mix, or would you have tried to blend them?
 
good questions, dob - both sets of recordings were actually quite good and both were useable. i did mixes of both sets, and was rather hard pressed to make the decision on which to use. i believe the first set with the two stereo pairs actually was a sweeter and more traditional sounding recording, but the truck noises were bothersome to me and when i filtered out the low end, i lost some of the fullness of the tracks. i think what really decided it was that the group did a better performance of the material on the second (close-mic'ed) set. yes, i used a blend of both sets of stereo pairs when i mixed the first set, and got a very nice effect. however, both the ORTF condensers and the blumlein ribbons sounded pretty great by themselves - i used the blend to avoid having to do any EQ tweaking.
 
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