Hard panning when bouncing in mixing

[Papoola]

Dear All, Time ago I received many mails from guys here stating that if I bounce 8 tracks into track named 1&2, 1 shall be hard left and 2 shall be hard right.
This when recording the mix

They also stated that when playing back the stuff I had to center the pan of both 1&2 to have a correct playing.
Now, after several trials i can tell you that to my taste this sounds wrong. If I keep 1&2 hard panned in playback too I can listen air between the instruments and stereo open effects.

If I move the pan to center for both it sounds more mono than stereo.
By the way it is true that with hard panning in playback it seems that i loose quite energy in the mix, but i still prefer the other way, mor airy.

What is the correct way in doing so ??
Tks a lot

 

[leomazz]

Papoola:
When you bounce same tracks, I supouse that you have mix them. If you have made a stereo mix, the 2 tks must be panned hard left & hard right.
Other way, you will loose the strereo spectrum that made in the mix.

Saludos.

leomazz

 

[Papoola]

Leomazz, do you mean........

..hard panned both in recording and in playback too ???
Yes you are right it is a mixdown of 8 tracks to a stereo and it will be the final product.

 

[Blue Bear Sound]

I read this thru and wasn't sure what you're trying to do...

If you're sub-mixing to 2-tracks of stereo, then you pan the instruments where you want to place them in the stereo field (between the 2 speakers). If you pan something hard-right or left, the sound will only come out of that one speaker (right or left).

If you want the sound to come more from one side than another, you pan it somewhere other than center.

Once you've placed your instruments using panning, you record that to 2 channels - from that point on, if you want to maintain the stereo sound field you just set up, those 2 channels HAVE to be panned hard right and hard left, otherwise, as pointed out, you lose all your efforts in setting up the image.

If you do this and it doesn't sound right, it means you didn't properly setup your submix to begin with, and you're going to have to redo it.

Bruce

 

[Papoola]

Blue Bear, sorry

if I was unclear.
Yes, I can follow you. I made already exactly what you advised me.
One guy told me that in play mode the stereo tracks needed to be repositioned back centered as panning.
In this way I listened very bad sounding, with lost of stereo and image.
That's why I just asked a confirmation that my own way is the correct one.....Hard panned both in recording and in repllay mode.

Like you said
Tks

 

[Porter]

Papoola,

Try to imagine Track 1 and 2 as separate speakers. Track 1 being the left and Track 2 being the right. Now pan Track 1 hard left and Track 2 hard right (after you have bounced down the final, you might have to move them together a little (maybe 10-2 so the centre mix doesn't sound empty). Set the pan of the other tracks that you want to bounce down to 1 & 2. Bounce. When you've bounced, you should have, between the 2 tracks a stereo mix. If you pan track 1 & 2 back to the center you are back to where you started with all the tracks playing down the centre of the mix.

Answer to your last post, hard panned or maybe 10-2 paned might be better... depends on where you want your sound.

Porter