Guys Singing Songs Sung By Girls

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When a guy sings a girl song, he is supposed to lower the vocal range to match his scale right?

For example: let's take the song "Lisa Loeb - Stay"

If a guy were to sing this, he would lower all the notes a little to match his voice, but still make the notes go up and down when they are suppose to, just all of the notes would be in a lower range?


The reason I'm asking this is, my brother ( a singer) is trying to sing songs but his voice constantly cracks or dies out, and I think it's because he's trying to match the singers notes (not voice, just notes).

Thanks in advance!
 
Unless you have a really high voice you will have to transpose the song into a lower key so you can hit all the notes properly. And yes you sing the same pattern of ups and downs, you just sing in a lower key.
 
Unless you're Joe Perry or Steven Tyler.....Not all male vocalists have low voices. Many female singers have lower registers too. So, it's not about gender, it's about range.
 
Nagela said:
When a guy sings a girl song, he is supposed to lower the vocal range to match his scale right?
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Supposed by whom?

Transpose it or sing it an octave lower. Unless you're Perry Farrell.
 
Nagela said:
The reason I'm asking this is, my brother ( a singer) is trying to sing songs but his voice constantly cracks or dies out, and I think it's because he's trying to match the singers notes (not voice, just notes).
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Now that I read this again, I have ask: What is he singing TO? Do you mean he's singing along with the song on the radio (or CD, etc....)? If so, then he either has to sing along with the song as it is, or sing an octave lower. You can't expect someone to transpose a song and sing 3 or 4 notes below the singer all the way through. That's almost impossible and would sound horrible anyway.

If you mean he's singing with a band or a Karoake machine, then it's up to the band or the Karoake machine to transpose the song into a lower key.
 
RAMI said:
Now that I read this again, I have ask: What is he singing TO? Do you mean he's singing along with the song on the radio (or CD, etc....)? If so, then he either has to sing along with the song as it is, or sing an octave lower. You can't expect someone to transpose a song and sing 3 or 4 notes below the singer all the way through. That's almost impossible and would sound horrible anyway.

If you mean he's singing with a band or a Karoake machine, then it's up to the band or the Karoake machine to transpose the song into a lower key.
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Sorry for late reply guys, oh he just is trying to sing anime songs (karaoke) and in general normal songs i.e alternative rock or something.. i have no idea XD.

I see what you guys mean by singing just an octave lower, I think he's just trying to hard to actually match the notes and use a different voice which clearly isn't working for him. I'll tell him to just lower the octave in general until he can actually sing without straining himself.
 
Transposing to suit your voice doesn't always mean a full octave. It all depends on the song and the singer. Maybe it's only a few semi tones. Unfortunately, transposing karaoke is a daunting task unless you have a pitch control knob on the player.
 
Oh last quick question!
Do you guys normally record an entire song in one go?
Or parts of a song at a time.
I use audacity, so everytime I record a new vocal part, it uses a whole new line/track thing.. but it sounds the same i guess
 
Probably most people aim to do the whole song and then either stop and pick it up after mistakes and/or go back afterward and punch in fixes.

Audacity if fine for basic editing and learning some technique but there is much better multi-track recording software out there for not too much money.
 
Oh, is it better to keep the vocals on one track? Or on separate tracks every-time I pause and continue?
Thanks!

I think audacity is great, it's just I'm not intelligent enough to learn all the functions and actually utilize it like most other people do.
 
Nagela said:
Oh, is it better to keep the vocals on one track? Or on separate tracks every-time I pause and continue?
Thanks!
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Whatever works for your process. It might be good to move audio blocks to one track as you go if you record on another track.
 
bouldersoundguy said:
Whatever works for your process. It might be good to move audio blocks to one track as you go if you record on another track.
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You mean like.. if I mess up in the middle of something use split delete (or highlight and delete) then record from there, or use time shift or something? XD.
 
RAMI said:
You can't expect someone to transpose a song and sing 3 or 4 notes below the singer all the way through. That's almost impossible and would sound horrible anyway.

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Well, if it's karaoke then I agree since the track will still be at the original pitch.
But I do it all the time for live work. If I can't reach a note I either transpose it to where I can or I change the way i sing it compared to the original.

Usually though, I transpose ..... if it's only a half step i transpose a half step ...... if it's 1 1/2 steps I transpose it 1 1/2 steps.
Whatever works.

Hell ..... if I play with a band that downtunes half a step I don't even bother to retune. I just transpose all night.
Musicians that can't transpose may as well not come up on stage with me.
 
Lt. Bob said:
Well, if it's karaoke then I agree since the track will still be at the original pitch.
But I do it all the time for live work. If I can't reach a note I either transpose it to where I can or I change the way i sing it compared to the original.

Usually though, I transpose ..... if it's only a half step i transpose a half step ...... if it's 1 1/2 steps I transpose it 1 1/2 steps.
Whatever works.

Hell ..... if I play with a band that downtunes half a step I don't even bother to retune. I just transpose all night.
Musicians that can't transpose may as well not come up on stage with me.
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No, I agree with all that 100%. I was responding to Nagela and I got the impression he (she?) was talking about singing along to a song on the radio but singing every note lower, which like I said, doesn't make sense and is almost impossible.

I understand and have no problem with transposing.
 
Lt. Bob said:
Well, if it's karaoke then I agree since the track will still be at the original pitch.
But I do it all the time for live work. If I can't reach a note I either transpose it to where I can or I change the way i sing it compared to the original.

Usually though, I transpose ..... if it's only a half step i transpose a half step ...... if it's 1 1/2 steps I transpose it 1 1/2 steps.
Whatever works.

Hell ..... if I play with a band that downtunes half a step I don't even bother to retune. I just transpose all night.
Musicians that can't transpose may as well not come up on stage with me.
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I can transform ..... Is that good enough? :D
 
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