Guitar mixing for a HUGE sound

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Now, I know we all have our favorite techniques for everything, so I want to ask what others do for guitar. Especially a band with one guitar. I've done double-micing with one panned hard right, one panned at about 2 O'clock and then another guitar recorded the same way apnned in a mirror image. I've double-miced and panned one mic hard left, one hard right, and then put about 10ms of delay on one side with no dry out, just the delayed signal. It sounds very wide. I then fill in any "holes" in the middle with another guitar part or 2.

So, how does everyone out there like to do it?

Eric
 
You're panning stuff left and right, and that's fine, but you can also add a bit of 'local' body to a guitar by miking it with different mics to two different channels, and then panning both channels left, for instance, but a few degrees apart. Doing it that way helps keep the stereo separation of all the different elements more distinct as well.
 
Mic the front of the amp and put up a condenser at the back of the cabinet - on mixdown, blend the 2 tracks to taste on a single channel...
 
Blue Bear?? what is the position of the condensor behind the cab of the amp? thanks man, the dude
 
Depends on the amp - I use it on open-back cabs - at least 3 feet away from the mic in front (otherwise you could have phase issues)...

You have to experiment with placement to get the full-bodied tone of the low-mids without being too boomy.
 
Well, I'm not a bear, but I bet he'll say something like: the best behind the cab position for the mic is the one you find through experimentation to have a real good sound. And that would probably depend on things like the kind of cab, the size of the room and how close the cab is to the wall, what the polar pattern of the mic is - lotsa variables.
 
I like to record the exact same part twice and pan mostly left and right. Always thought that sounded decent. I guess it might not work well if the guitar player is inconsistent though....
 
I double (and on occasion triple or quadruple) the guitar part manually, never using the exact same amp setup. I spend much time in pre-production trying to find the combinations that will fill up the sonic range appropriately. I don't pan hard left or right, more around the 6 and 9 positions, preferring to have the qualities of both guitars cross over to the other side with hopes of creating a cohesive, synergistic guitar sound.

Cy
 
I haven't read the posts above, so I don't know if what I'm going to say has been said, but I'll say it anyway.

You're not going to hear doubletracked guitars well because they're the same frequency. Panning hard right or left won't help, try delaying them but moving one track SLIGHTLY.
 
doubling guitars works well for hard rock and metal, but i've found it sorta sucks for regular rock and roll. the trick i use may not be 'right', but it works for me. i put about 4 or 6 mics around the guitar (half close/half far) and find the combination of two that work the best. sometimes only one is best. i like to keep the main guitar in the middle, i think it hits a little harder that way.

the best way to get a a thick guitar sound is still starting with the 'm' words - marshall and mesa (though i prefer fender amps for most of my own rock and roll).
 
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