Good mic for Dual Recto

[Toker41]

My SM57 works fine on my Marshall JCM800, but I don't care for it on the Mesa. I am trying to record Hi-gain, metal tone. Can anyone recommend a good LD mic for under $200 for recording a Hi Gain Dual Recto with the oversize cab?

 

[gumplunger]

Try a Sennheiser 609 or a Sennheiser MD421. I don't have personal experience with the 609, but the 421 picks up a lot more of the chunky low end and the screaming high-end that Mesa likes to pile on.

 

[Henri Devill]

The 609 is pretty darn good!For under 200.00 you really can't go wrong..good luck

 

[Toker41]

I take it that by 609, you mean e609? Are they one and the same? Just ordered the e609 from Samash.com. Figured your right, for $100 it's worth a shot.

 

[Henri Devill]

I take it that by 609, you mean e609? Are they one and the same? Just ordered the e609 from Samash.com. Figured your right, for $100 it's worth a shot.

Yup E609...Good luck with it!

 

[manning1]

toker....just an idea. before buying another mic (and the suggestions are good re ev.) have you exhausted all the mic positions tried on the mesa ?
i know this is an old trick but believe me its worked for me in the past
on some (not all) powerfull amps, sometimes downgrading instead of upgrading the mic works. a free idea - wont cost you a penny (worked for me in the past) - find an old speaker and wire it as a mic (ie: leads to a qtr inch male jack). (watch your levels - some spkrs put out quite a wallop).
then plug the qtr inch into a cassette decks mic input and try a test recording. try various positions of the spkr mic.
as i said i KNOW its weird but sometimes ive had better guitar tracks on some guitar amps than using a regular maybe even exotic mic.
my theory is somehow certain spkrs as mics frequency curves seem to match well.
sometimes works - sometimes dont.
no harm in trying.

 

[bgavin]

I got to help Recording Engineer today with a group that had a Dual Rectifier driving a Mesa 2x12 cab.

He mic'ed up the cab with an SM57, an ancient EV-omni he calls "the secret weapon", and a Russian LDC farther back for ambience. The cab was standalone in the second studio.

The blend of these mics provided a really accurate recording of this amp's crunch. Very musical sounding.

 

[Toker41]

I've found that the 57 works on just about every amp I've ever recorded. However, with the over sized Boogie 4-12 it just doesn't like the low end, and the high end is coming off as white noise. I believe that turning the amp down might help this, but I'm working with a hard headed lead guitar player that "has to have it that loud to get the right tone". The guy simply will not give on this. It has taken weeks of arguing just to get him to record without his damn stomp box effects (delay, and chorus), because "that is his sound", and "...Those 8 bit pedal effects are better than any plugin effect he has heard"...duh!. I tell ya, lead guitar players have to to be the most difficult kind on musician to work with in a recording studio. I've play guitar for about 25 years, and when I recorded I kept my mouth shut, did what I was told by the producer or engineer, and took notes. I fear I am a rare breed.
Anyway, I'm going to try the 609, but I'm thinking it might be a combination of mics to get this. Thanks for the advice guys.

 

[chessrock]

He mic'ed up the cab with an SM57, an ancient EV-omni he calls "the secret weapon . . .

The EV-635A can hardly be called a "secret weapon" anymore. I'd say the secret's been out for some time now. Hell, I think even my mom, your brother in law, and any kid you stop at the nearest Walmart or strip mall knows about it by now.

 

[dnl88]

Er if u give me the double recto, i'll tell you what sort u can get

 

[Warhead]

The EV-635A can hardly be called a "secret weapon" anymore. I'd say the secret's been out for some time now. Hell, I think even my mom, your brother in law, and any kid you stop at the nearest Walmart or strip mall knows about it by now.

That's it...you're going on double secret probation.

War